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What is a competitive score on step 1USMLE for hop diag rad?
GoPistons said:some smoking in the high 260s...
kcumbDO said:What is a competitive score on step 1USMLE for hop diag rad?
musicman1991 said:Sorry to say, DO probably has no shot at a Hopkins interview.
Also, there is no "firm cutoff" just know that most people who match at elite programs have 240 or higher and MD/PhD and/or AOA.
Atlas said:How can you be so sure??
Their anesthesia program just took an OUCOM grad...with ONLY COMLEX scores (NO USMLE). Never say never.
VentdependenT said:Rads would be very hard to pull at an ivy place as a DO. IM and Anes don't come close to the competitiveness found in rads. I'd say that your rotation at hopkins will count for a hell of a lot more than your high USMLE score (which will be the same as everyone elses whose interviewing there).
Apply all over man.
novacek88 said:Radiation Oncology is more competitive than radiology and a Caribbean student matched there. Anything is possible but I agree with your overall point.
hans19 said:Yes, that was >6 years ago when Rad-Onc was much less competitive.
I'm sure a carribean grad, or (any grad) would have been able to match rads at a great program back in 1996.
Like it or not, there is de facto bias against IMGs and DOs in the most competitive fields.
daelroy said:I would say derm is pretty competitive wouldn't you? What about the AZCOM grad who matched derm at the Cleveland Clinic a few years ago. Note that was less than 6 years ago and to my knowledge derm was the most competitive field to match even then.
daelroy said:What are you arguing? No one has denied there is a bias against IMG's and DO's. Only a complete fool would make that assertion. At the same time, people defy the odds all the time.
I would say derm is pretty competitive wouldn't you? What about the AZCOM grad who matched derm at the Cleveland Clinic a few years ago. Note that was less than 6 years ago and to my knowledge derm was the most competitive field to match even then.
Like it or not, even heavily anti-DO programs are willing to make exceptions for outstanding talent. It's rare but it happens.
hans19 said:What are you trying to assert?
Read my post C-A-R-E-F-U-L-L-Y. The post was in regard to a carrib grad who matched at a top rad-onc program. Yes this is impressive, but my assertion was that he/she matched many years ago, when rad-onc and rads were much less competitive than today.
If you are nitpicking, your one anecdote about an AZCOM grad in the last 3 years certainly can't be stretched into "DO's and Caribbean grads are matching in derm."daelroy said:I read your post but I don't think you did. You said that it would be easy for someone to match in rads at Hopkins or a top program like it in 1996 implying that it would be impossible to do so now. Now are you going to deny writing that for the sake of being difficult even though it is plain and clear to anyone reading this thread?
I'm asserting that anything is possible however unlikely it may seem. If DO's and Caribbean grads are matching in derm which is much more competitive than rads, anything is possible. You would disagree with that?
daelroy said:What are you arguing? No one has denied there is a bias against IMG's and DO's. Only a complete fool would make that assertion. At the same time, people defy the odds all the time.
I would say derm is pretty competitive wouldn't you? What about the AZCOM grad who matched derm at the Cleveland Clinic a few years ago. Note that was less than 6 years ago and to my knowledge derm was the most competitive field to match even then.
Like it or not, even heavily anti-DO programs are willing to make exceptions for outstanding talent. It's rare but it happens.
What is a competitive score on step 1USMLE for hop diag rad?
Just for the record, I had a 255 with extra-circulars, research, and solid letters and didn't get an interview at Hopkins.
To illustrate strength of competition, I was told today that during my gf's class at SUNY Downstate, 2 students got above 270 and 15-20 people had over 250.
I scored in the low 260s and was not offered an interview at a west coast IR fellowship that supposedly autointerview top 20 applicants sorted by step 1. Still got into a top IR fellowship program out east but just to illustrate that the competition is tough.
Source?It appears times have changed. In 2016, only 30 applicants to radiology nationwide had step scores >260.
It appears times have changed. In 2016, only 30 applicants to radiology nationwide had step scores >260. Unless all 30 are applying to Hopkins and ranking it #1, I have a hard time seeing how Hopkins only considers 260+ applicants if that is what you are implying. That being said, it is obviously a top program that garners amazing applicants almost all of whom have stellar step scores.
Sorry, but I think you misinterpreted the data on that. There were over 1000 matches into radiology in 2016, and only a fraction of those actually completed the survey and are included in the data for outcomes of the match PDF. So if you were to have data of all 1000+ matches Im sure you would have at least 2-3 times as many applicants with scores >260.It appears times have changed. In 2016, only 30 applicants to radiology nationwide had step scores >260. Unless all 30 are applying to Hopkins and ranking it #1, I have a hard time seeing how Hopkins only considers 260+ applicants if that is what you are implying. That being said, it is obviously a top program that garners amazing applicants almost all of whom have stellar step scores.
The biggest assumption is that we were applying in 2016, but you failed to mention that because it destroys the rest of your argument.
Sorry, but I think you misinterpreted the data on that. There were over 1000 matches into radiology in 2016, and only a fraction of those actually completed the survey and are included in the data for outcomes of the match PDF. So if you were to have data of all 1000+ matches Im sure you would have at least 2-3 times as many applicants with scores >260.