Pt Safety LLSA Sucks Donkey Balls

[tkim]

That is all.

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[BJJVP]

The fact that we have to do it sucks for sure. But is it at least quick and painless or does it take forever to complete? I am trying to figure out how much time to set aside for this nonsense.

 

[Arcan57]

Has a 90 minute video attached and the articles are painful to read. Agree with tkim.

 

[tkim]

Did not listen to videos as you could see the same info under the summary tab, which was also less than useful. Used the search button for the pdf's. Still painful. The finest in college-level trip-you-up-test-you-on-precise-wording-rather-than-content questions, evar.

It's like someone at ABEM decided they needed another $100 from all of us for ... I dunno.

Lit up the comment section post-test. Made reference to ABIM ****ting themselves. Only two more LLSAs to go this half decade ...

Oh wait, I still got to do those 'projects'. FML.

 

[deleted109597]

It's a pain. It's almost like ABEM doesn't know (or doesn't care) that almost every single organisation has the LLSA answer sheets and goes over them so everyone passes.

And yes, pt safety was a bitch. At least I ignored the video.

 

[tkim]

It's a pain. It's almost like ABEM doesn't know (or doesn't care) that almost every single organisation has the LLSA answer sheets and goes over them so everyone passes.

And yes, pt safety was a bitch. At least I ignored the video.

The whole "take the test in groups, open book" is their way of making less painful what is obviously a simple cash grab.

 

[emergentmd]

LLSA and every other thing that ABEM makes us do is all a money grab. I for one just click until I am done. Answer the questions, get credit.

Need to watch a video? Turn it on, go do some chores, come back.

Ridiculous that we have to do this.

 

[tkim]

https://nbpas.org/

How viable do people think this option is?

 

[tkim]

The LLSA's are a pain, but the real kick in the balls are the projects. Like I want to take on four projects in addition to the LLSA, state licensing and CME requirements, plus a monster test every ten years.

 

[Birdstrike]

Any update or suggestions as to how to do this Patient Safety LLSA as fast & efficiently as possible?

Links?

Free resources?

PowerPoint summaries?

Slides with help?


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[GeneralVeers]

Or *hypothetically* you could just get the answer sheets.

Seriously this MOC needs to stop. Waste of time, money, and effort. The same with PALS, ACLS, ATLS, and all of the other nonsense.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

https://nbpas.org/

How viable do people think this option is?

Depends on the hospital, but for most of us it isn't viable yet.

 

[gutonc]

Or *hypothetically* you could just get the answer sheets.

Seriously this MOC needs to stop. Waste of time, money, and effort. The same with PALS, ACLS, ATLS, and all of the other nonsense.

At least you could make a semi-rational argument for the merit badges.

But the MOC crap is ridiculous. Especially when you realize that most of the people in charge of it (at least for ABIM...can't comment on ABEM) are all grandfathered in not just to not do MOC but to never have to re-take their boards.

https://nbpas.org/

How viable do people think this option is?

I have privileges at 4 hospital systems (8 total hospitals) and only one of them (the small, scary one that I'd jump out of the ambulance if I found out I was being taken there) accepted my NBPAS certification when I re-credentialed last year. All the others were all "ABMS or GTFO". I'm now in a position at one of those hospital systems (4 of the 8) to work on making NBPAS certification acceptable for credentialing. But the hospital system that actually employs me is having none of it.

 

[Birdstrike]

Or *hypothetically* you could just get the answer sheets.

Seriously this MOC needs to stop. Waste of time, money, and effort. The same with PALS, ACLS, ATLS, and all of the other nonsense.

Ahhgrhh...I just sucked it up and did it. What a pain in the freekin' arsss. Shame on whoever expanded this crap. It's getting downright criminal.


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[sum dude]

I can usually live with the LLSA, but yes, the patient safety thing was like like a hemorrhoidectomy w/ anesthesia...and it took forever.

 

[emergentmd]

There is a small grass root trying to go away from ABMS. Its not just ABEM, its many other that require docs to jump through hoops needlessly.

Whoever started this has everything to do with the money grab and nothing to do with patient care. We met alot of our requirements by having someone just hand us sheets to fill out to make it legit.

If ABMS keeps this up, they will be a dying dinosaur when enough surgical specialists throw their weight around to get hospitals to not require ABMS.

Its already being talked about at a big HCA hospital system and once it gets implemented throughout their hospitals, the rest will follow.

ABMS better be careful or they be nonexistent.

As an aside, we have IM docs that were grandfathered in and NEVER needs to get recert every 10 yrs, do LLSA, and all the crap to be able to sit for the test.

How fair is that?

 

[emergentmd]

Or *hypothetically* you could just get the answer sheets.

Seriously this MOC needs to stop. Waste of time, money, and effort. The same with PALS, ACLS, ATLS, and all of the other nonsense.

WHY does a EM trained/boarded EM doc need ATLS, ACLS, PALS? Seriously. I have avoided ATLS recert but I need ACLS for Moderate sedation? Really?

Before moderate sedation, Admin never required current ACLS and I ran codes/intubated all day long. Now that I do moderate sedation, I have to spend $100 a yr to take an online course and present it to ADMIN. Ridiculous.

 

[AlmostAnMD]

Time to rebel and form your own board like the IM people tried imo

 

[Birdstrike]

Or you can be like Rand Paul during the Optho years. Form your own speciality board and appoint yourself the President of it.


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[deleted109597]

WHY does a EM trained/boarded EM doc need ATLS, ACLS, PALS? Seriously. I have avoided ATLS recert but I need ACLS for Moderate sedation? Really?

Before moderate sedation, Admin never required current ACLS and I ran codes/intubated all day long. Now that I do moderate sedation, I have to spend $100 a yr to take an online course and present it to ADMIN. Ridiculous.

Coalition to Oppose Medical Merit Badges // ACEP

 

[bravotwozero]

AAEM even issues you a procedural sedation and resuscitation expert card if you are ABEM certified and a member. I was trying to get credentialled at a locums gig that was a hca/emcare site and demanded all physicians regardless of BC status need to have active ATLS (I let mine expire). Despite me showing them AAEM and ACEP statements on merit badges, they didn't budge. I walked away and literally told them to go to hell in an email.


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[emergentmd]

AAEM even issues you a procedural sedation and resuscitation expert card if you are ABEM certified and a member. I was trying to get credentialled at a locums gig that was a hca/emcare site and demanded all physicians regardless of BC status need to have active ATLS (I let mine expire). Despite me showing them AAEM and ACEP statements on merit badges, they didn't budge. I walked away and literally told them to go to hell in an email.


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I would never work at any place that requires current ATLS. ACLS/PALS I will jump through that hoop via an online test. But I am not spending 8 hrs and traveling to take a class where I am an expert.

 

[deleted109597]

AAEM even issues you a procedural sedation and resuscitation expert card if you are ABEM certified and a member. I was trying to get credentialled at a locums gig that was a hca/emcare site and demanded all physicians regardless of BC status need to have active ATLS (I let mine expire). Despite me showing them AAEM and ACEP statements on merit badges, they didn't budge. I walked away and literally told them to go to hell in an email.


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I've done that twice this year as well. One that demanded it only for procedural sedation, and the other that wanted it for credentialling. Well allow me to step out of the way of all the other people kicking your door down for jobs Mr. Hospital Admin.