- Joined
- Jun 14, 2016
- Messages
- 10
- Reaction score
- 2
I don't think it matters because a PDs opinion is similar to other faculty/interviewers. At least is most programs, which is why most programs have >3 interviewers.
Does it matter whether an applicant interviews with the PD? A couple places I have been to don't seem to have the PD meet with everyone. Kinda hard to not think that the PD selects those he/she is most interested in meeting.
Yes I figured as much. To be fair, at one place there were something like 15 applicants that day and we each only had 2-3 interviews, so the PD ended up meeting probably 25-30% of us. Hopefully an interview with the section chief carries some weight then.Not to push any anxiety buttons but I don't like it either. Especially since applicant pool is small relatively speaking. Not meeting with every candidate seems off to me.
Yes I figured as much. To be fair, at one place there were something like 15 applicants that day and we each only had 2-3 interviews, so the PD ended up meeting probably 25-30% of us. Hopefully an interview with the section chief carries some weight then.
I wanted to hear some thoughts on programs that have mandatory 18 month research. For folks who enjoy research, but want to ultimately be more a clinical educator in an academic center, is this a bad way to train? Is 18 months of clinical training enough to be a competent clinician (especially at large academic centers where patients are likely sicker)?
Seems like these places want you to be a pure researcher during the 18 months. Elective time for ultrasound or a subspeciality clinic exposure seems integrated into the 18 months of clinical training.To be a clinician educator, I believe procedures and clinical knowledge would benefit more than doing 18 months of research. Now this is dependent on how the institution allocates you during those months. Are you going to be sitting in a lab doing bench research, or will you be working on clinical research that will allow time for electives in say ultrasound or other electives to buff up clinical expertise?
In the end, my opinion of a place "mandating" 18 months of research would be that they are trying to appease to the applicant who wants to continue on this path of research. Not speaking from any experience as I too am an applicant.
Seems like these places want you to be a pure researcher during the 18 months. Elective time for ultrasound or a subspeciality clinic exposure seems integrated into the 18 months of clinical training.
36 months of clinical training will likely trump 18/18 of clinical/research (no matter how academic the program is for the latter), just wondering how big a difference it would make.
I had 3 years of protected research time (70% one year, 90% the other 2) and it wasn't enough to get to to K-land. It's almost universally true now that, if you want to be a true "physician-scientist", you're going to be doing 1-2 years (at least) as a super-fellow/instructor in order to get there.The REAL question with those positions offering 18 months of research is . . . are the 18 months of research enough to get you going as a researcher, if that is your interest. Sadly this is likely a big "no" at most institutions. You need to reasonably expect to try and arrange for an additional 4th year of fellowship that will protect your research time and allow for you to get enough data to write a competitive K award application.
I had 3 years of protected research time (70% one year, 90% the other 2) and it wasn't enough to get to to K-land. It's almost universally true now that, if you want to be a true "physician-scientist", you're going to be doing 1-2 years (at least) as a super-fellow/instructor in order to get there.
Don't look at me man...I got out. Regretted it for a bit but it's been a couple of years since I looked back. Quite happy with my choice.So cost of education is going up, number and size of grants is going down, duration of training is going up, pressure to publish is going up, salary is going down.....
Remind me why I'm doing this again??
Don't look at me man...I got out. Regretted it for a bit but it's been a couple of years since I looked back. Quite happy with my choice.
Yea, I'm EM->CCM looking at doing academics, but, the more I look at the numbers, the harder it is to justify.
Don't look at me man...I got out. Regretted it for a bit but it's been a couple of years since I looked back. Quite happy with my choice.
Yes.Were you trying to do basic science research during fellowship/post-doc, gutonc?
I interviewed at downstate, was disappointed in every single way ! Interview process took an hour and a half that's it. How am I supposed to decide my future based on this ? Typical NYC programAny input on : SUNY upstate vs SUNY downstate vs Cook County ?
Don't look at me man...I got out. Regretted it for a bit but it's been a couple of years since I looked back. Quite happy with my choice.
downstate was pretty... bland. No intro powerpoint to show case the program, the division offices are within the hospital, only got a chance to meet 1 fellow, no breakfast or lunch or conference, I hightailed myself outta thereI interviewed at downstate, was disappointed in every single way ! Interview process took an hour and a half that's it. How am I supposed to decide my future based on this ? Typical NYC program
I would appreciate any thoughts or input on Colorado/National Jewish vs Cleveland Clinic. Can't decide on a number one.
UT-UK then the rest depending on weather preferences.Can anyone help in ranking, looking for a good clinical program, research not a big priority but want to do ip or lung transplant later on
UT southwestern dallas
Oklahoma University
Buffalo suny
SUNY Upstate
Univ of Kentucky Lexington
Can anyone help in ranking, looking for a good clinical program, research not a big priority but want to do ip or lung transplant later on
UT southwestern dallas
Oklahoma University
Buffalo suny
SUNY Upstate
Univ of Kentucky Lexington
I would appreciate any thoughts or input on Colorado/National Jewish vs Cleveland Clinic. Can't decide on a number one.
Any thoughts on University of Louisville and UT Memphis in comparison to UK Lexington? I'm focused on being in a clinically strong program and I have an interest in IP. UT seemed to have strong critical care but they seemed somewhat lacking on the pulm side of things with some of those limitations due to lack of technology. Louisville seems to have not filled a couple years ago and I didn't know what to make of that. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
I think 9PM on the 16thwhen do programs have to finalize their rank lists?
So on the NRMP site it reports that Nov 2 is the "Quota change deadline" under important dates. Anybody have any idea what is this and if this is relevant to us?
http://www.nrmp.org/fellowships/medical-specialties-matching-program/
Wait, they're allowed to do that? So they can advertise multiple positions all season long, then just fill with internal candidates at the last minute?I believe that when is when programs have to finalize how many positions are being given through the match. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Wait, they're allowed to do that? So they can advertise multiple positions all season long, then just fill with internal candidates at the last minute?
Yeah, but can't they decide how many spots they will offer in total? I've interviewed at a program or two that stated they have X or X+1 positions this year. I agree this was this exception, most programs had a set number.
Sent from my iPhone using SDN mobile
But they can reduce their spots?Yes they have until today to decide how many spots they're going to have but they can't have spots outside the match in addition
But they can reduce their spots?
Had an email exchange with a faculty member with whom I interviewed but radio silence from the PD.In terms of getting "positive responses" from programs that people may have sent correspondences to to exhibit their "priority or #1".
Has any one heard back or gotten those positive responses?
As far as program reviews, for paranoia sake, will post after rank cert.
1 call/email to 1 program. That's it.Whats everyone's take on asking your faculty to call or email your top program.
Is it harmful if multiple attendings email?