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I just matched gen surg. It is definitely possible to try for a categorical gen surg spot and be forced into a prelim spot (from the match or SOAP).

The trick is to be realistic with yourself based on your stats and the info from NRMP Charting Outcomes. Example: Yeah I also love plastics, maybe even as a future career, but there is no way I had the numbers to apply for integrated plastics. Good thing I love gen surg so much!
That makes sense. I will definitely keep that in mind when my time comes. Congrats on matching!
 
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Einstein match is always a reason showing that ranking isn't everything. Their IM matches are always crazy strong. This year no different with most matches across the board

Their IM looks pretty meh to me actually. Their peds looks almost as good as harvard/upenn though
 
Just recreating thread due to far too much commentary occurring in the previous one.
Please, Please, Please only match lists.
 
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I'm honestly surprised UWash doesn't match to more highly ranked programs. At other schools at this level it seems as though students need to try to fall below a top 20 academic center, even when applying out of their league specialty-wise. I figured the name would pull about the same weight as NYU, Cornell, Pittsburgh, or at least the students would match at a higher rate to some of the fantastic residency programs they have there, but the match lists are quite different from comparably ranked schools. I do realize some of this is student (and school) priorities, but you'd think they'd follow the same pattern as other comparable schools. Anyone have an explanation?

This is why it's pretty useless to look as rank lists outside your specialty...

I think this is a pretty Ballin rank list for EM:

U Arizona COM at Tucson Tucson AZ
*UC San Francisco-Fresno-CA Fresno CA
*Denver Health Medical Center (2) Denver CO

U Iowa Hosps and Clinics Iowa City IA
Massachusetts Gen Hosp Boston MA
University Hosps-Columbia-MO Columbia MO
Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center (2) Lebanon NH
U New Mexico SOM Albuquerque NM
Hofstra Northwell SOM-NY Manhasset NY
NYU School Of Medicine New York NY
Icahn SOM at Mount Sinai-NY New York NY
*U Cincinnati Medical Center-OH Cincinnati OH
Oregon Health & Science Univ Portland OR

Allegheny Gen Hosp-PA Pittsburgh PA
U Texas Southwestern Med Sch (2) Dallas TX
Carilion Clinic-Virginia Tech Carilion SOM (2) Roanoke VA
U Washington Affiliated Hospitals (2) Seattle WA

Bold = strong
* = some of the undisputed badass programs (read: "best," but EM don't roll like that)

non-bold = I dunno cuz east coast is foreign to me

Edit: may be a couple earned east asterisk in there, too. Not sure because "east."
 
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This is why it's pretty useless to look as rank lists outside your specialty...

I think this is a pretty Ballin rank list for EM:

U Arizona COM at Tucson Tucson AZ
*UC San Francisco-Fresno-CA Fresno CA
*Denver Health Medical Center (2) Denver CO

U Iowa Hosps and Clinics Iowa City IA
Massachusetts Gen Hosp Boston MA
University Hosps-Columbia-MO Columbia MO
Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center (2) Lebanon NH
U New Mexico SOM Albuquerque NM
Hofstra Northwell SOM-NY Manhasset NY
NYU School Of Medicine New York NY
Icahn SOM at Mount Sinai-NY New York NY
*U Cincinnati Medical Center-OH Cincinnati OH
Oregon Health & Science Univ Portland OR

Allegheny Gen Hosp-PA Pittsburgh PA
U Texas Southwestern Med Sch (2) Dallas TX
Carilion Clinic-Virginia Tech Carilion SOM (2) Roanoke VA
U Washington Affiliated Hospitals (2) Seattle WA

Bold = strong
* = some of the undisputed badass programs (read: "best," but EM don't roll like that)

non-bold = I dunno cuz east coast is foreign to me

Edit: may be a couple earned east asterisk in there, too. Not sure because "east."
Didn't realize Dartmouth would have a great EM program considering their volumes are in all likelihood considerably lower compared to some of the large urban medical centers.
 
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Didn't realize Dartmouth would have a great EM program considering their volumes are in all likelihood considerably lower compared to some of the large urban medical centers.
Full disclosure, I didn't know I bolded Dartmouth. Nor do I actually know. I'll fix it.
 
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WSUSOM (Wayne State University School of Medicine)
Neglected TYs and Surgical TYs

PLEASE NO COMMENTARY OR BOLDING/ANNOTATING DESIRABLE MATCHES

Stats: 97.3% matched, 5% in MI, 39.7 Primary care,


Anesthesiology-14
UMichx3
WSU/DMC
Stanford
BI Deaconess
Icahn
Case Western
Emory
Cedars-Sinai (CA)
Beaumont
MCW
UCincy
Northwestern (research)
Kaiser Permanente (Med Prelim/CA)

Dermatology-5
Cleveland Clinic
Wayne SOMx2
Cook County-Stroger (IL)
Barnes-Jewish (MO)

Diagnostic Radiology-14
Barnes Jewish
McMasters (Canada)
Henry Ford (MI)x5
DMC/WSUx2 (MI)
Oakwood Hospital (MI)
Beaumont (MI
Hofstra Northwell SOM

ENT-4
MUSC
UMinn
Rutgers
Henry Ford (MI)

IR-Integrated-1
Beaumont (MI)

Emergency Medicine-33
Washington Hospital Center
Detroit Med Ct/WSUx12
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partnersx2
St. John Hospital (MI)x6
Beaumont Hospital (MI)
Allegheny Hospital (PA)
UCincy
Umichx2
Henry Ford Hospital (MI)x2
Columbia&Cornell (NY)
BI Deaconess (MA)
Loma Linda
UT Southwestern
Yale (research)

Family Medicine-28
UIllinois COM-Rockford
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partnersx2
U Arizona MO
UMich
Oakwoodx4
UCSD
UP Health System Marquette (MI, upper peninsula)
Mid Michigan Med Center
Ft. Wayne Med
Western University (Canada)
St. Mary Mercy (MI
Mercy Memorial Hospital (MI)
UNC
Mayo Clinic -La Crosse (WI)
Kaiser Permanente Fontona (CA)
UToronto
Grtr Lawrence Family Health Ctr (MA)
OHSU
FSU
Beaumont Hospital (MI) x3

General Surgery-11
UMaryland
Cleveland Clinic
DMCx2 (MI)
Henry Fordx2 (MI)
Naval Medical Center (Portsmouth)
UVirginia
MCW
Rush
UT St. Thomas Hospital (TN)

Internal Medicine-48
DMCx4
Rushx3
Beaumont (MI) x2
Temple
Olive View UCLA
USC
Mayo (MN)
UT Houston
UMichigan
McMasters
Henry Fordx9
McMasters (Canada)
Baylorx2
Northwestern
UBuffalo
UTennessee
St. Mary Mercy (MI)
Mt. Carmel Health (OH)
UPenn x2
Kaiser Permanente (CA)
UCincy
UToledo (OH)
UCSD
Indiana Universityx3
Boston Universityx2
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners (MI)
MCW
Hofstra
Mayo (MN)
University of Chicago

Med-Preliminary-4
UHawaii
UC Irvine
St. Johns Riverside (NY)
St. Joseph Hospital SCL (CO)

Med-Peds-7
DMCx3
Western MI
UMich
UPMCx2

Neurosurgery-2
MUSC (SC)
DMC/WSU (MI)

Neurology-3
Michigan
Henry Ford
University of Utah

OB/GYN-10
DMC (MI)x4
Cedars Sinai (CA)
Beaumont (MI)
Sparrow Hospital (MI)
Umaryland
Central Michigan
Henry Ford

Ophthamology-8
Loyola
Henry Ford (MI)
Indiana
Kresge Eye (MI)x2
Wake Forest
Case Western
Indiana

Ortho-12
SLU (research fellowship)
UCincy (research fellowship)
Yale
UToledo
DMCx2
Henry Fordx2
UToronto
UFlorida COM
UKentucky
SUNY-Upstate

Pathology-4
UMich
UC Davis
Henry Ford
Baylor

Pediatrics-19
Beaumont (MI)
Chil. Hosp of MIx4
MCW
Vanderbilt
UT Southwestern
Louisville
Childrens National Med Center (DC)
Childrens Mercy Hospital (MO)
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partnersx3
Harpor UCLA
UC Irvine (Pediatrics/UCI-CHOC)
Indiana (Pediatrics/EM comb)
UFlorida-Shands

PM&R-3
VA Greater LA Hlth Sys
UColorado
Harvard Spauling Rehad Hosp (MA)

Psychiatry-14
UFlorida Shands
Henry Ford (MI)x2
DMCx3 (MI)
Pine Rest Christian (MI)
Rush
Jackson Memorial
St. Mercy (MI)
UNC
UT Southwestern
UWisconsin
Loyola

Rad-ONC-2
MD Anderson
Beaumont (MI)

Urology-6

Henry Ford (MI)x3
Rush
Emory
University of Nebraska
 
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lols....

i can count on one hand the number of non-top 15 institutions from that list

poor guy who matched at Temple, hope he didn't drink him/herself to death by now

This is one of those moments were you shouldn't comment if you do not understand the specialty. As someone who interviewed at both places (and without bias as I am not attending either), Temple is by far - the superior EM program in Philly. I even spoke with multiple Penn students who were ranking Temple above Penn.
 
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This is one of those moments were you shouldn't comment if you do not understand the specialty. As someone who interviewed at both places (and without bias as I am not attending either), Temple is by far - the superior EM program in Philly. I even spoke with multiple Penn students who were ranking Temple above Penn.
Agree on name brand not necessarily meaning anything in EM. Hell many people consider Carolinas a top program and it's an academic affiliated community program.
 
Wayne State School of Medicine 2017 Match List
Match Location State Specialty
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor MI Anesthesiology
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Anesthesiology
Stanford Univ Progs CA Anesthesiology
B I Deaconess Med Ctr MA Anesthesiology
Icahn SOM at Mount Sinai NY Anesthesiology
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor MI Anesthesiology
Case Western/Univ Hosps Cleveland Med Ctr OH Anesthesiology
Emory Univ SOM GA Anesthesiology
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center CA Anesthesiology
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor MI Anesthesiology
Beaumont Health System MI Anesthesiology
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps WI Anesthesiology
U Cincinnati Med Ctr OH Anesthesiology
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA IL Anesthesiology/4 Yr
Cleveland Clinic Foundation OH Dermatology
Wayne State University SOM MI Dermatology
Cook County-Stroger Hospital IL Dermatology
Wayne State University SOM MI Dermatology
Barnes-Jewish Hospital MO Dermatology
McMasters University Canada Diagnostic Radiology
Washington Hospital Ctr DC Emergency Med/Georgetown-WHC
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Med/Sinai Grace
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Med/Sinai-Grace
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Med/Sinai-Grace
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Medicine
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Medicine
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners MI Emergency Medicine
St John Hospital MI Emergency Medicine
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Medicine
St John Hospital MI Emergency Medicine
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Medicine
Beaumont Health System MI Emergency Medicine
St John Hospital MI Emergency Medicine
Advocate Christ Med Ctr IL Emergency Medicine
Allegheny Gen Hosp PA Emergency Medicine
U Cincinnati Med Ctr OH Emergency Medicine
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor MI Emergency Medicine
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor MI Emergency Medicine
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Medicine
U Cincinnati Med Ctr OH Emergency Medicine
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Medicine
Henry Ford HSC MI Emergency Medicine
St John Hospital MI Emergency Medicine
St John Hospital MI Emergency Medicine
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners MI Emergency Medicine
NYP Hosp-Columbia & Cornell NY Emergency Medicine
B I Deaconess Med Ctr MA Emergency Medicine
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Medicine
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Medicine
Henry Ford HSC MI Emergency Medicine
Loma Linda University CA Emergency Medicine
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Medicine
St John Hospital MI Emergency Medicine
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Emergency Medicine
U Texas Southwestern Med Sch-Dallas TX Emergency Medicine
Yale-New Haven Hosp CT Emergency Medicine/Research
U Illinois COM-Rockford IL Fam Med/Dixon Rural
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners MI Famiily Medicine
U Arizona COM-Phoenix AZ Famiily Medicine
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor MI Family Med/Ypsilanti
Oakwood Hospital MI Family Medicine
UC San Diego Med Ctr CA Family Medicine
Oakwood Hospital MI Family Medicine
UP Health System-Marquette MI Family Medicine
MidMichigan Med Center MI Family Medicine
Oakwood Hospital MI Family Medicine
Ft Wayne Med Ed Prog IN Family Medicine
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners MI Family Medicine
Western University/Windsor Canada Family Medicine
St. Mary Mercy Hospital MI Family Medicine
Mercy Memorial Hospital System MI Family Medicine
UP Health System-Marquette MI Family Medicine
U North Carolina Hospitals NC Family Medicine
Oakwood Hospital MI Family Medicine
La Crosse-Mayo Clinic WI Family Medicine
Kaiser Permanente-Fontana CA Family Medicine
University of Toronto Canada Family Medicine
Grtr Lawrence Fam Hlth Ctr MA Family Medicine
Oregon Health & Science Univ OR Family Medicine
Florida State University COM FL Family Medicine/Lee Memorial
Beaumont Health System MI Family Medicine/Troy
Beaumont Health System MI Family Medicine/Troy
Beaumont Health System MI Family Medicine/Troy
U Maryland Med Ctr MD General Surgery
Cleveland Clinic Foundation OH General Surgery
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI General Surgery
Henry Ford HSC MI General Surgery
Naval Medical Center Portsmouth VA General Surgery
University of Virginia MI General Surgery
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI General Surgery
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps WI General Surgery
Rush University Med Ctr IL General Surgery
Henry Ford HSC MI General Surgery
UT St Thomas Hospitals TN General Surgery/West
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Int Med/Det/Harper/VA
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Int Med/Det/Harper/VA
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Int Med/Det/Harper/VA
Rush University Med Ctr IL Internal Medicine
Rush University Med Ctr IL Internal Medicine
Beaumont Health System MI Internal Medicine
Temple Univ Hosp PA PA Internal Medicine
Olive View UCLA Med Ctr CA Internal Medicine
U South California CA Internal Medicine
Mayo Clinic School of Grad Med Educ MN Internal Medicine
U Texas Med Sch Houston TX Internal Medicine
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor MI Internal Medicine
McMasters University Canada Internal Medicine
Henry Ford HSC MI Internal Medicine
Baylor Coll Med-Houston TX Internal Medicine
Henry Ford HSC MI Internal Medicine
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA IL Internal Medicine
St Joseph Mercy-Ann Arbor MI Internal Medicine
Henry Ford HSC MI Internal Medicine
University at Buffalo SOM NY Internal Medicine
U Tennessee COM-Chattanooga TN Internal Medicine
St Mary Mercy Hospital MI Internal Medicine
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Internal Medicine
Rush University Med Ctr IL Internal Medicine
Henry Ford HSC MI Internal Medicine
Mount Carmel Health System OH Internal Medicine
Hosp of the Univ of PA PA Internal Medicine
Kaiser Permanente-Fontana CA Internal Medicine
Beaumont Health System MI Internal Medicine
Baylor Coll Med-Houston TX Internal Medicine
U Cincinnati Med Ctr OH Internal Medicine
University of Toledo OH Internal Medicine
UC San Diego Med Ctr CA Internal Medicine
Henry Ford HSC MI Internal Medicine
Henry Ford HSC MI Internal Medicine
Indiana Univ Sch of Med IN Internal Medicine
Boston Univ Med Ctr MA Internal Medicine
Henry Ford HSC MI Internal Medicine
Indiana Univ Sch Of Med IN Internal Medicine
Henry Ford HSC MI Internal Medicine
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners MI Internal Medicine
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps WI Internal Medicine
Hofstra Northwell SOM NY Internal Medicine
Mayo Clinic School of Grad Med Educ MN Internal Medicine
Hosp of the Univ of PA PA Internal Medicine
Henry ford HSC MI Internal Medicine
Indiana Univ Med Ctr MA Internal Medicine
Boston Univ Med Ctr MI Internal Medicine
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr IL Internal Medicine/Northshore
Beaumont Health System MI Interventional Radiology (Integrated)
St. Louis University MO Junior Orthopaedic Trauma Fellowship
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Medicine-Pediatrics
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Medicine-Pediatrics
Western Michigan Univ Stryker SOM MI Medicine-Pediatrics
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor MI Medicine-Pediatrics
UPMC Medical Education PA Medicine-Pediatrics
UPMC Medical Education MI Medicine-Pediatrics
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Medicine-Pediatrics
University of Hawaii HI Medicine-Preliminary
UC Irvine Med Ctr CA Medicine-Preliminary
St Johns Riverside Hospital NY Medicine-Preliminary
St Joseph Hospital SCL Health CO Medicine-Preliminary
Kaiser Permanente-SF CA Med-Prelim/Stanford-Anesth
Medical University of SC SC Neurological Surgery
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Neurological Surgery
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor MI Neurology
Henry Ford HSC MI Neurology
U Utah Affil Hospitals UT Neurology
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Obstetrics-Gynecology
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center CA Obstetrics-Gynecology
Beaumont Health System MI Obstetrics-Gynecology
Sparrow Hospital MI Obstetrics-Gynecology
U Maryland Med Ctr MI Obstetrics-Gynecology
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Obstetrics-Gynecology
Central Michigan University COM MI Obstetrics-Gynecology
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Obstetrics-Gynecology
Henry Ford HSC MI Obstetrics-Gynecology
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Obstetrics-Gynecology
Loyola U/ Hines VA Hosp IL Ophthalmology
Henry Ford Hospital Detroit MI Ophthalmology
Indiana University IN Ophthalmology
Kresge Eye Institute/Wayne State University MI Ophthalmology
Wake Forest U NC Ophthalmology
Kresge Eye Institute/Wayne State University MI Ophthalmology
Case Western Reserve U OH Ophthalmology
Indiana University IN Ophthalmology
Yale-New Haven Hosp CT Orthopaedic Surgery
University of Toledo OH Orthopaedic Surgery
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Orthopaedic Surgery
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Orthopaedic Surgery
Henry Ford HSC MI Orthopaedic Surgery
Henry Ford HSC MI Orthopaedic Surgery
University of Toronto Canada Orthopaedic Surgery
U Florida COM-Jacksonville FL Orthopaedic Surgery
U Kentucky Med Ctr KY Orthopaedic Surgery
SUNY Upstate Med University NY Orthopaedic Surgery
University of Cincinnati OH Orthopaedic Surgery Research Fellowship
Medical University of SC SC Otolaryngology
U Minnesota Med School MN Otolaryngology
Rutgers-New Jersey Medical School MI Otolaryngology
Henry Ford HSC MI Otolaryngology
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor MI Pathology
UC Davis Med Ctr CA Pathology
Henry Ford HSC MI Pathology
Baylor Univ Med Ctr-Dallas TX Pathology
Beaumont Health System MI Pediatrics
Childrens Hospital of Michigan MI Pediatrics
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps WI Pediatrics
Vanderbilt Univ Med Ctr TN Pediatrics
U Texas Southwestern Med SCH-Dallas TX Pediatrics
U Louisville SOM KY Pediatrics
Childrens National Med Ctr DC Pediatrics
Children's Mercy Hospital MO Pediatrics
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners MI Pediatrics
Childrens Hospital of Michigan MI Pediatrics
Harbor-UCLA Med Ctr CA Pediatrics
U Minnesota Med School MN Pediatrics
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor MI Pediatrics
U Rochester/Strong Memorial NY Pediatrics
Harbor-UCLA Med Ctr CA Pediatrics
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners MI Pediatrics
Childrens Hospital of Michigan MI Pediatrics
Childrens Hospital of Michigan MI Pediatrics
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners MI Pediatrics
UC Irvine Med Ctr CA Pediatrics/UCI-CHOC

Indiana Univ Sch Of Med IN Pediatrics-Emergency Med
U Florida COM-Shands Hosp FL Peds/Arnold Palmer-Orlando
VA Greater LA Hlth Sys CA Phys Medicine & Rehab
U Colorado SOM-Denver CO Phys Medicine & Rehab
Harvard Spaulding Rehab Hosp MA Phys Medicine & Rehab
U Florida COM-Shands Hosp FL Psychiarty
Henry Ford HSC MI Psychiatry
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Psychiatry
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Psychiatry
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Psychiatry
Pine Rest Christian Mental Hlth Svcs MI Psychiatry
Rush University Med Ctr IL Psychiatry
Henry Ford HSC MI Psychiatry
Jackson Memorial Hosp FL Psychiatry
St Mary Mercy Hospital MI Psychiatry
U North Carolina Hospitals NC Psychiatry
U Texas Southwestern Med Sch-Dallas TX Psychiatry
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics WI Psychiatry
Loyola Univ Med Ctr IL Psychiatry
U Texas MD Anderson Cancer Ctr TX Radiation Oncology
Beaumont Health System MI Radiation Oncology
Grand Rapids Med Ed Partners MI Radiology-Diagnostic
Henry Ford HSC MI Radiology-Diagnostic
Henry Ford HSC MI Radiology-Diagnostic
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Radiology-Diagnostic
Henry Ford HSC MI Radiology-Diagnostic
Detroit Med Ctr/WSU MI Radiology-Diagnostic
Henry Ford HSC MI Radiology-Diagnostic
Oakwood Hospital MI Radiology-Diagnostic
Beaumont Health System MI Radiology-Diagnostic
Hofstra Northwell SOM-Lenox Hill Hosp NY Radiology-Diagnostic
Henry Ford HSC MI Radiology-Diagnostic
Barnes-Jewish Hospital MO Radiology-Diagnostic
Henry Ford HSC MI Radiology-Diagnostic

Henry Ford Hospital Detroit MI Urology
Rush University Med Ctr IL Urology
Henry Ford HSC MI Urology
Henry Ford HSC MI Urology
Emory Univ SOM GA Urology
University of Nebraska Med Ctr NE Urology

stats say 267 matches
Those 2 radonc matches.......

From meeting the EM and uro matched who held their meet and greets- step 1 and nowadays a high early step 2 are essential. Then it's core + elective rotation scores. And the third thing everyone seemed to imply strongly, but couldn't state outright- home department reputation- the EM matches mentioned how a Wayne EM letter can go very far in pulling interviews, as long as steps and rotations were competitive- one of the Cinci EM matches mentioned getting pretty much every west coast interview invite for EM despite not doing aways or any ties. Meanwhile, the uros implied that rank shut them out of a lot of places, but away rotations +step 1 and early step 2 opened up other doors + having close support of their home program due to long term close connections. And while we had a really good match year again, from looking at the SOAP stats and stories, absolutely positively have a backup plan (dual apply into a less competitive specialty you'd be happy with) if you're first choice specialty is surgical sub/derm/radonc. Because the SOAP choices of only 1 prelim year are going to be worse than matching categorical in a 2nd choice specialty. That 2nd choice specialty is definitely insanely hard once you lose the US senior md status.
 
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This is one of those moments were you shouldn't comment if you do not understand the specialty. As someone who interviewed at both places (and without bias as I am not attending either), Temple is by far - the superior EM program in Philly. I even spoke with multiple Penn students who were ranking Temple above Penn.

Truth. In fact, more Penn students go to Temple for EM than Penn lol
 
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This is one of those moments were you shouldn't comment if you do not understand the specialty. As someone who interviewed at both places (and without bias as I am not attending either), Temple is by far - the superior EM program in Philly. I even spoke with multiple Penn students who were ranking Temple above Penn.

I also agree. I have a friend who attends Temple and is interested in EM, he said he'd rather attend Temple over Penn because Penn has you do a ton of research, so less time to actually learn medicine. Also Temple is in the rough part of town, so you see a lot of stuff coming through those doors...
 
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UCSF 2017 Match List

Anesthesiology

Stanford
SUNY Stony Brook
U Washington
UC Davis
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF

Child Neurology
Stanford
U Washington

Emergency Medicine
Alameda County/Highland Hospital
Harbor UCLA
LA County/USC
MGH
NYU
Riverside Community Hospital
Stanford
SUNY HSC-Brooklyn
UC Davis
UC San Diego
UCLA
UCSF-Fresno
UCSF-Fresno
UCSF-Fresno

Family Medicine
Contra Costa Regional
Contra Costa Regional
Contra Costa Regional
Emory
Harbor UCLA
Kaiser Napa-Solano
Natividad Medical Center
OHSU
Presbyterian Intercommunity Hospital
Presbyterian Intercommunity Hospital
Sutter Santa Rosa
Swedish Medical Center
Swedish Medical Center
U Minnesota
UC Davis
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF

General Surgery
Duke
Duke
UCLA
UCSF-East Bay

Internal Medicine
Cedars-Sinai
Columbia/NY-Presbyterian
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA
Pitt
Stanford
U Chicago
UC Davis
UC San Diego
UCLA
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF

IM/Primary Care
Cambridge Health Alliance
Cedars-Sinai
Cedars-Sinai
U Washington
UCLA
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF

Med-Peds
U Michigan

Neurosurgery
UC San Diego

Neurology
Barnes-Jewish
National Capital Consortium/Walter Reed
OHSU
Stanford
U Washington
UCSF
UCSF

Ob/Gyn
Case Western/UH
Duke
Kaiser Santa Clara
Northwestern McGaw/MGH/VA
Santa Clara Valley Med Center
UCSF
Yale/New Haven Hospital
Yale/New Haven Hospital

OMFS
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF

Ophthalmology
U Arizona
UCSF
UT Houston

Orthopaedics
Boston U Medical Center
Stanford
UCLA
UCSF
UTHSC San Antonio

Otolaryngology
Columbia/Cornell/NY-Presbyterian
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA
Stanford
UCLA
UCSF
UCSF
USC

Pathology
UCSF

Pediatrics
Children's Hospital LA
Duke
Our Lady of the Lake Regional
Stanford
Stanford
U Washington
UC San Diego
UCLA
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UT Southwestern

Pediatrics/Primary Care
Pitt

Pediatrics/Medical Genetics
Boston Children's/Boston Medical Center

Psychiatry
Baylor
Columbia/NY-Presbyterian
Stanford
UCLA/Semel Institute
UCLA/Semel Institute
UCSF
UCSF
Yale/New Haven Hospital

Radiology-Diagnostic
Stanford
U Washington
U Wisconsin

Radiology-Interventional
U Arizona

Urology
Northwestern
 
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UCSF 2017 Match List

Anesthesiology

Stanford
SUNY Stony Brook
U Washington
UC Davis
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF

Child Neurology
Stanford
U Washington

Emergency Medicine
Alameda County/Highland Hospital
Harbor UCLA
LA County/USC
MGH
NYU
Riverside Community Hospital
Stanford
SUNY HSC-Brooklyn
UC Davis
UC San Diego
UCLA
UCSF-Fresno
UCSF-Fresno
UCSF-Fresno

Family Medicine
Contra Costa Regional
Contra Costa Regional
Contra Costa Regional
Emory
Harbor UCLA
Kaiser Napa-Solano
Natividad Medical Center
OHSU
Presbyterian Intercommunity Hospital
Presbyterian Intercommunity Hospital
Sutter Santa Rosa
Swedish Medical Center
Swedish Medical Center
U Minnesota
UC Davis
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF

General Surgery
Duke
Duke
UCLA
UCSF-East Bay

Internal Medicine
Cedars-Sinai
Columbia/NY-Presbyterian
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA
Pitt
Stanford
U Chicago
UC Davis
UC San Diego
UCLA
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF

IM/Primary Care
Cambridge Health Alliance
Cedars-Sinai
Cedars-Sinai
U Washington
UCLA
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF

Med-Peds
U Michigan

Neurosurgery
UC San Diego

Neurology
Barnes-Jewish
National Capital Consortium/Walter Reed
OHSU
Stanford
U Washington
UCSF
UCSF

Ob/Gyn
Case Western/UH
Duke
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Northwestern McGaw/MGH/VA
Santa Clara Valley Med Center
UCSF
Yale/New Haven Hospital
Yale/New Haven Hospital

OMFS
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF

Ophthalmology
U Arizona
UCSF
UT Houston

Orthopaedics
Boston U Medical Center
Stanford
UCLA
UCSF
UTHSC San Antonio

Otolaryngology
Columbia/Cornell/NY-Presbyterian
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA
Stanford
UCLA
UCSF
UCSF
USC

Pathology
UCSF

Pediatrics
Children's Hospital LA
Duke
Our Lady of the Lake Regional
Stanford
Stanford
U Washington
UC San Diego
UCLA
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
UCSF
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Pediatrics/Primary Care
Pitt

Pediatrics/Medical Genetics
Boston Children's/Boston Medical Center

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Baylor
Columbia/NY-Presbyterian
Stanford
UCLA/Semel Institute
UCLA/Semel Institute
UCSF
UCSF
Yale/New Haven Hospital

Radiology-Diagnostic
Stanford
U Washington
U Wisconsin

Radiology-Interventional
U Arizona

Urology
Northwestern

No Derm, Rad Onc, or Plastics Integrated?? Kind of surprised coming from one of th top med schools in the nation. (Not that there's anything wrong with not pursuing them, but they certainly had the doors open for them for anything).
 
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No Derm, Rad Onc, or Plastics Integrated?? Kind of surprised coming from one of th top med schools in the nation. (Not that there's anything wrong with not pursuing them, but they certainly had the doors open for them for anything).

It really shouldn't be that surprising. If you know anything about UCSF, then you'd know they place a big emphasis on primary care, so this is actually fairly expected of them.
 
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Um? In about ten days, all the schools will have their incoming residents plastered on their websites. So sorry you don't like it but it's sort of how things work. PS: a resident IS a physician

Do the programs with advanced specialties wait until the following year to list their incoming residents?
 
There's inbreeding, and then there's Harvard-level inbreeding.

~74/153 (48%) Harvard students matched at Harvard programs

I wonder if having multiple top hospitals w/ their own programs exaggerates this even compared to other top tiers.

Then again, it's Harvard, so it could just be that.


Late to this, but....yes, obviously having multiple hospitals means having duplicate programs and therefore many more spots. But, really, Harvard Med is starting out with the best of the best so it stands to reason that at least half of their students spanked steps and were ranked highly by all they interviewed. Not surprising that those who interviewed at an H hospital would rank one program #1 and then match.

What % of those interviewed at an H hospital do you think didn't rank an H hospital as #1.
What % of those interviewed at MGH do you think didn't rank MGH as #1.

I ask the last Q because a friend struggled between ranking MGH or JHU as #1 in a competitive residency. In the end, ranked MGH as #1 and matched.
 
Late to this, but....yes, obviously having multiple hospitals means having duplicate programs and therefore many more spots. But, really, Harvard Med is starting out with the best of the best so it stands to reason that at least half of their students spanked steps and were ranked highly by all they interviewed. Not surprising that those who interviewed at an H hospital would rank one program #1 and then match.

What % of those interviewed at an H hospital do you think didn't rank an H hospital as #1.
What % of those interviewed at MGH do you think didn't rank MGH as #1.

I ask the last Q because a friend struggled between ranking MGH or JHU as #1 in a competitive residency. In the end, ranked MGH as #1 and matched.
So it's your conclusion that 100% of Harvard students destroy Step? Lol ok.
 
Now that many of the match lists are listed, is it ok to discuss?

I'm honestly surprised UWash doesn't match to more highly ranked programs. At other schools at this level it seems as though students need to try to fall below a top 20 academic center, even when applying out of their league specialty-wise. I figured the name would pull about the same weight as NYU, Cornell, Pittsburgh, or at least the students would match at a higher rate to some of the fantastic residency programs they have there, but the match lists are quite different from comparably ranked schools. I do realize some of this is student (and school) priorities, but you'd think they'd follow the same pattern as other comparable schools. Anyone have an explanation?

The name, UWash Med, isn't going to have pull. You're confusing a name with cohort. UWash Med consists of students coming from about 6 states, and I think some of those states have guaranteed spots no matter what their applicants' stats are.

A 4th year cohort from Cornell, NYU, or WashU is going to be filled with students who entered with tippy top stats. Is it really a surprise that many of their students would likely have top Steps, etc, and likely match at top programs? It's not the school's name, it's their "grade" of students. Not saying that UWash's cohort was crap but since the school can really only pick from a handful of states, the stats probably aren't as high as those top privates.

Someone mentioned that top program PRs probably see UPenn on an app and auto-send an interview w/o looking at the rest of the app. I don't believe that. I think that if the stats aren't there, there won't be an invite to a top program. How many students get interviewed for each top program, particularly the competitive specialties? 40? More? Less?
 
So it's your conclusion that 100% of Harvard students destroy Step? Lol ok.

How are you suggesting that my conclusion is that 100% of H students crush Step? I didn't suggest anything like 100%. I said at least half. That's not 100%, right?

I would lol too if that was a suggestion. I guess if you want to lol, then you twist someone's post to make it a joke.

Do you disagree that maybe 50% of H's MS4s have high enough stats to get ranked/matched into one of H's hospitals?

And since H has so many hospitals, it stands to reason that many of their students would match at one of them.

People have been commenting on how many top schools had their own students match into their programs. That isn't really surprising because that happens everywhere. Many students, for a variety of reasons, really want to stay in the same area. Maybe they're married or whatever, and they've "settled" in that area and don't want to leave. We saw a number of matching students show up with children in tow. Those peeps often want to stay put.
 
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