Yes, my roommate is applying in GI and received interviews from those programs. I saw someone asked about NY programs so I decided to help out.r u sure u r posting in the right page? u updated endocrine list today too
Yes, my roommate is applying in GI and received interviews from those programs. I saw someone asked about NY programs so I decided to help out.r u sure u r posting in the right page? u updated endocrine list today too
Hi guys, I know now, my application is filtered, I called one of programs in Michigan (William Beaumont) and the coordinator said, their criteria for selection in USMLE score of 230 or above. I know now my application filtered.
Zero interviews out of all programs so far despite the fact I have a lot of research, Master Degree and other good credentials.
Why wouldn't program mention selection criteria of USMLE score on their website?
St Peters, NJ sent out on 8/24 I believe. I'm not sure about others.Has anyone heard from any of the other NYC area hospitals?
i.e. Stony Brook, Winthrop, LIJ, Maimo, NYH Queens, Beth Israel, NYMC, Lenox Hill, Methodist, Brookdale, Downstate, Monte, NUMC, Elmhurst, NJMS, Cooper, or Saint Peters University?
Score USMLE 230Hi guys, I know now, my application is filtered, I called one of programs in Michigan (William Beaumont) and the coordinator said, their criteria for selection in USMLE score of 230 or above. I know now my application filtered.
Zero interviews out of all programs so far despite the fact I have a lot of research, Master Degree and other good credentials.
Why wouldn't program mention selection criteria of USMLE score on their website?
Score USMLE 230
is it for step 1 or both step 1 & 2
All steps she said.
coz each person who reviews part of applications ll have different perceptions about scores. Although she meant 230, some ppl who review applications in the program could potentially set the bar at 250. Unlike residency, decisions are not that uniform among interviewers. Thats why there is no info on score requirement.Hi guys, I know now, my application is filtered, I called one of programs in Michigan (William Beaumont) and the coordinator said, their criteria for selection in USMLE score of 230 or above. I know now my application filtered.
Zero interviews out of all programs so far despite the fact I have a lot of research, Master Degree and other good credentials.
Why wouldn't program mention selection criteria of USMLE score on their website?
coz each person who reviews part of applications ll have different perceptions about scores. Although she meant 230, some ppl who review applications in the program could potentially set the bar at 250. Unlike residency, decisions are not that uniform among interviewers. Thats why there is no info on score requirement.
Not in all programs. Many programs divide the total applications into sets of 3 or 4 and gives it to different ppl to pick. Overall they ll give an outline like at least 230 in steps is desired. Unless PD is very hands on, he has a full time clinical job and wont be able to review all 500 odd applications himself. Ultimately the fate depends on the person who reviews your applicationThe PD sets the cutoff for the program, so an interviewer would not even see the apps for people screened out by the PD
coz each person who reviews part of applications ll have different perceptions about scores. Although she meant 230, some ppl who review applications in the program could potentially set the bar at 250. Unlike residency, decisions are not that uniform among interviewers. Thats why there is no info on score requirement.
Not in all programs. Many programs divide the total applications into sets of 3 or 4 and gives it to different ppl to pick. Overall they ll give an outline like at least 230 in steps is desired. Unless PD is very hands on, he has a full time clinical job and wont be able to review all 500 odd applications himself. Ultimately the fate depends on the person who reviews your application
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I have been following this thread.
I was once involved in picking applicants for interview for a residency program and I can tell you that there is definitely a filter. Applications for residency can have > 1500 at least and with the filter it can narrow down to 500 in an instant! In GI, application can be 500+
Filters includes, usmle scores (steps 1,2,3 and CS - if pass or failed), medical school, LOR, previous experience (or training), visa (whether GC, US citizen or visa requiring), any misdemeanor (felony or have been charged), research and publications
They don't have filter on number of years out of medical school or residency. That will come out when they read ur application
In short, there will be filter on anything that you put in your ERAS application. And if you don't qualify even 1 of the filters the PD or APD or PC placed, you are automatic out in the interview pool
Regarding USMLE score it would be depending on the Programs to what standard of scores they want. I knew someone who had 190 of USMLE scores that got into GI and was able to do advance endoscopy afterwards.
For IMG
1. it is who will vouch for you.
2. It is also if your own residency program has GI fellowship.
3. Definitely AMGs have an edge.... way way far (remember about the filter)
In the end, u need only 1 interview to get into the program and u have to impress the interviewer so that you will be ranked.
AMGs are ranked in the top 5 all the time, IMGs are ranked starting from 6 onwards... so pray that you are ranked and the ones ahead of you rank other programs on top.
Good luck
This information is inaccurate. I was a chief resident and a chief fellow. I interviewed candidates in residency and fellowship, and was a member of the selection committee. IM2GI is correct. The PD sets the cutoffs. If you fall below them, your application is never reviewed. I will explain how it works.
The whole point of a cutoff is to reduce the number of apps you have to review. It's not some arbitrary measuring stick, below which you are unworthy of attending a program. But the fact is there are way too many applications to review, so you have to figure out a way to thin the heard. For my fellowship program, we received over 400 applications for 3 spots. There was no way we were reading 400+ applications to fill three spots.
ERAS allows you to use any sort of cutoff you want. You want to print only applications with Step scores > 230, boom, there you go. You want to only print applications from US med grads, boom, there you go. You want to exclude applications that need visas, boom, there you go. Most programs don't use all these cutoffs, maybe just one or two, enough to get the number of applications to review to a workable number. If they use a step score cutoff and after reviewing the first round they are unhappy with the results, they can always go back and print the scores from 220 to 230 to get some more candidates.
If you fall below their cutoff, whatever that might be, your application is never even printed or reviewed. Once a workable number of applications is obtained, this batch is then divided amongst the interviewers for review and invitation offers.
But the point is, if you are screened out, you have literally been screened out, and your app is never even reviewed. You either get rejected immediately, rejected when interviews are over, or silently rejected. This is why it is so important to apply broadly, because different caliber programs will have different cutoffs.
Yes call will bypass everythingVery useful info, thank you both!
Before all this was posted, I had started a thread asking pretty much the question that you guys answered here, at least for GI Step 1 filters for IM subspecialties - might they INCREASE in the future?
Hypothetical question for you all (I'm just a med student, but trying to plan a bit for the future on my weekend off): if I was a AMG at a mid tier university program with solid research and LORs, but I know I'm gonna be screened out by step 1 score at a program, would a call from my IM PD or a GI fellowship PD that I've worked with allow me to get past a screen? I'm sure this is program dependent at best, or not at all possible at worst...thanks for your input
Very useful info, thank you both!
Before all this was posted, I had started a thread asking pretty much the question that you guys answered here, at least for GI Step 1 filters for IM subspecialties - might they INCREASE in the future?
Hypothetical question for you all (I'm just a med student, but trying to plan a bit for the future on my weekend off): if I was a AMG at a mid tier university program with solid research and LORs, but I know I'm gonna be screened out by step 1 score at a program, would a call from my IM PD or a GI fellowship PD that I've worked with allow me to get past a screen? I'm sure this is program dependent at best, or not at all possible at worst...thanks for your input
Yes call will bypass everything
Depending on the conversation with your IM PD or GI PD and the other program. It can go two ways. The other GI program can tell your IM or GI PD up front that you are not suitable for interview. But if the other program knew your IM or GI PD and had previous "good" interactions" then you may get an interview even with low step 1 score. It all depends on your IM Or GI PD credentials in this scenario.
1. IMG VISA
2. University Affiliated
3. 9 interviews so far
Can you please put some details from your CV (USMLE scores, publications, your med school...) just to get an idea how how the program select candidates?
I need a visa and im in a university program and I didnt get any IVs so far.
Does any one know or heard from Midwest program University of Iowa ? as yet, any news ?Why one anyone decide to expose their identity?
Does USMLE scores and number of publications consider identity to you?Why one anyone decide to expose their identity?
I know of someone from midwest region who interviewed there last week. Not sure if they started regionalDoes any one know or heard from Midwest program University of Iowa ? as yet, any news ?
yes someone I know got IV thereI know of someone from midwest region who interviewed there last week. Not sure if they started regional
problem is revealing med school coz then it narrows to 2 or 3 ppl from that university who are applying GI. It is best left anonymous. I understand what u are trying to figure out but I didnt include med school since it is dealbreaker. Things that could change is how much research experience and connections someone has, that SDN can never answer. Some ppl with score in 200s go to big name universities if they work with an influential person in that field. Ppl with step failures have done residency in cleveland clinic in the past. Anything is possibleCan you please put some details from your CV (USMLE scores, publications, your med school...) just to get an idea how how the program select candidates?
I need a visa and im in a university program and I didnt get any IVs so far.
Has anyone else heard from Stanford?
I got the interview from them this AM, but needed to decline it since they only gave one date that conflicts with my other interview. Too bad....
too bad. was the conflict between Mayo vs Stanford or MGH vs Stanford?I got the interview from them this AM, but needed to decline it since they only gave one date that conflicts with my other interview. Too bad....
Scopeguy, where are u training? U seem to have the most time of all the GI fellows I know. u are active not just in GI forum but also on heme onc etc. I text my Gi fellow friends and get reply from then 2 weeks later.
Lol we have reasonably busy program but I do it in between cases, while waiting for next clinic patient to be triaged. If your GI fellow friend is taking 2 weeks to respond, I doubt if he is truly your friend with good intentions as I don see any program being that terribly busy.Scopeguy, where are u training? U seem to have the most time of all the GI fellows I know. u are active not just in GI forum but also on heme onc etc. I text my Gi fellow friends and get reply from then 2 weeks later.
lol. true i am beginning to doubt this friendship. jokes apart, thanks for your involvement and tips here in this forum. If you don't mind sharing, how many total IVs did you get last year ( also may be u can split them into spontaneous iv vs iv through contacts and where u ended up matching- not the program name but whether where u matched was a spontaneuous vs contact IV )Lol we have reasonably busy program but I do it in between cases, while waiting for next clinic patient to be triaged. If your GI fellow friend is taking 2 weeks to respond, I doubt if he is truly your friend with good intentions as I don see any program being that terribly busy.
I had total of 6 IVs - IMG on a visa in a university affiliated residency program. Matched in a program where I got IV through contact(faculty in the dept) but was able to impress PD and APDs during IV based on my research work.lol. true i am beginning to doubt this friendship. jokes apart, thanks for your involvement and tips here in this forum. If you don't mind sharing, how many total IVs did you get last year ( also may be u can split them into spontaneous iv vs iv through contacts and where u ended up matching- not the program name but whether where u matched was a spontaneuous vs contact IV )
thanks for sharingI had total of 6 IVs - IMG on a visa in a university affiliated residency program. Matched in a program where I got IV through contact(faculty in the dept) but was able to impress PD and APDs during IV based on my research work.
Hello, I'm also desperately looking for interview day swap for University of Maryland/NIH. Mine is 10/5-6. I can do 9/14-15, 10/12-13, 10/19-20 or 10/26-27. Please personal message me if you can switch with me. Thank you!Is there any one who can swap University of Maryland interview (NIH scholar) with me? Mine is 9/14-15 and I can do 10/19-20 or 10/26-27.
Please PM me if you can.
Thank you very much for your consideration!