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HI, when you did your surgery at Travis, where you able to get a feel for the Family Med residency program there?
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HI, when you did your surgery at Travis, where you able to get a feel for the Family Med residency program there? I ask because I am interested in FM and setting up rotations for next fall and just curious about Travis AFB FM residency.
thanks
She seemed to be happy with her program; for FM people they don't need to leave the base, so she lives somewhere between the base and wine country and was thrilled with everything in the area. Doesn't seem terribly busy but certainly more had patients than surgery service. I don't know too much about the program, but if I was interested in FM Travis maybe a very nice place to do your residency. I hope this helps.
"With the 80 hour deal, surgical specialties have become more enticing especially at programs that take the 80 hours seriously. (Ours)"
From the above post- Does this mean that one will work at least 80 hours or no more than 80 hours per week??
Wilford Hall: I didn't want to go to Texas, mostly because too far from home and too hot. I could not picture my mom with extreme sensitivity to glaring sunlight coming to stay with me in Texas. BAMC is supposed to be an awesome hospital, and the residency is now reduced to 6-yr program from 7-yr program (5yr payback time).
Among the programs Wright-Patt would have been my number one choice, but problem with military residency is that none of the AF attendings will stay around to see the completion of your residency - deployment and also they have to move every 4 years or so. So if you are going somewhere because you love the attending there, it is not a guarantee that they will still be there when you start your residency. Furthermore, for AF, it's really the integrated civilian program that you will be spending 90% or more of your time, so your decision needs to be based on whether or not you want to go to that civilian program (except for BAMC, obviously). Sorry to be long winded, but I hope someone would find this helpful. These are all information as best as I know.
the area is ok. A big set back fo rme here is that the hospital is located in Portsmouth, which is surrounded by tunnels and terible traffic. Since P-town is not the most glamorous place to dwell, bought my home in Virginia Beach. Virgina Beach is ok. The actual hospital is nice. The facility is newer in comparison to other hospitals in this area. Fro some reason, the morale is really low though. I think it is becaus of those horrible tunnels!
Has anyone done an EM rotation? If so, please tell me about it! I am thinking about doing an EM rotation at Madigan or Brooke
Anyone have any experience doing an IM rotation in San Diego and Bethesda?
I have heard that we can sign up for two back-to-back ADTs during our 4th year: 1 at the end of the fiscal year (mid August to the end of September - "3rd year") and 1 at the start of the next fiscal year (October to mid November - "4th year"). Also, I have heard that we could split each 45 day ADT into two (2-4 week) locations.
Is this correct? If so, it would allow me to rotate through more Army locations where I am applying to residency.
They don't have to be September and October. They can be any time early in your fourth year. If you need them to be August and September, then they can be scheduled that way.
There is a limit to how short you can make your ADTs. I think the shortest ADT you can have is 24 days (check the handbook to verify), so you cannot turn one ADT into two. You can do a full 4 weeks at one location, then have the remainder be school orders, even if you are not, in fact, at school, but on another rotation. If you do back-to-back ADTs, I recommend you do 15 days of school orders before the first one, then the rotation, followed by rotation number 2, and 15 more days of school orders. Net result, you are active duty for 90 straight days, and get two rotations fully funded, with an additional 4 weeks of active duty pay while at school.
Do ADTs at your two top places, then do NADTs for any further rotations that you may want (not always necessary).
Outstanding! If I use the remaining 15 days at another Army hospital, will they pay for travel and housing? I have heard of cases where students were put in the BOQs during NADTs...
Thank you for all of the answers and advice. Just to clarify some things:
- I thought my 4th year ADT needed to be 'within the Army's fiscal year for my 4th year'. Meaning that it needs to be after 1 October 09 if my 4th year is the 2009-2010 calendar year.
[*]Can you still interview at military hospitals past the application deadline, and for how long? For eaxmple, if the FYGME application deadline is 15 October, and I am on a 4th year rotation from 1 October to mid November, would I be able to interview towards the end of that ADT?
Thanks!
Does anyone know where (Websites, etc) I can post a house for rent or sale to Military or Civilian Medical? I bought a home in San Antonio TX near BAMC, thinking we would be here for awhile and now I am headed to PA.
Anyone do a rotation at Walter Reed? I'm interested in their IM program.
No, they will not pay for travel or housing for the remaining time. As far as they are concerned, the remaining 15 days are served at school (regardless of where they are actually served). You just get your regular AD pay. For NADTs, your best bet is to contact the program, and see if there are any residents that are willing to put you up for the duration. Other than that, try craigslist.
If I do 4 weeks at my ADT site then have the remaining 2 weeks at my "school", but actually go to another army hospital, do I need to arrange anything for the second hospital? For example, are they going to want to see Orders (which will state I am at my school) or a Memorandum of Affiliation (MOA) or something?
Just trying to maximize my face-time at programs on a limited amount of time! I've heard of others doing something like this but wanted to be sure...
I just told everyone that I was doing an NADT when I had some of that "school orders" overlap from my actual ADT. No one asked me for orders, nor was I asked for an MOA.
1. Since you told them you were doing a NADT did you wear your uniform?
2. The rotation I want gives preference to ADT over NADT and is a field that fills fast. My fear of telling them I am on a NADT would be to loose my spot. Has anyone else encountered this issue?
I'd like to know as well!
My thoughts would be that if you were still on ADT but "assigned to school" for that particular portion and you went to another military facility on your own dime, you'd still wear your uniform.
However, would that NADT rotation expect to see any orders or would a letter from the school approving the credit be ok?
1. Since you told them you were doing a NADT did you wear your uniform?
2. The rotation I want gives preference to ADT over NADT and is a field that fills fast. My fear of telling them I am on a NADT would be to loose my spot. Has anyone else encountered this issue?
1) Per the HPSP handbook, you are not supposed to wear your uniform while on NADT rotations. Some institutions may say they don't care, so you could.
2) You don't have to tell them its an NADT when you schedule it with them. Just call up the person dealing with medical students and scheduling and say "I'd like to schedule a rotation with X at time Y." I don't think I ever mentioned ADT vs NADT when setting up my rotations, nor did anyone seem to care that I was doing an NADT for a competitive specialty at a highly-desired time.
Good advice. And, just say you are HPSP. WHen I did a NADT, they did not care if I was NADT or ADT status, just that I was HPSP.
When you showed up and went to the orientation, did anyone ask for your orders?
No. The Army is nice enough to realize that it would be stupid to mandate that you wait until 1 October to do your 4th year ADT, so allow you to take it pretty much any time after your 3rd year ADT. I've heard people using it any time in July-October without any issues (I did mine in September).