LECOM Postbacc 2017-2018 Cycle

[amar314]

Would applying now be too late? I know it closes in august but are all the spots basically filled?

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[Kickazzkhan21]

No problem! Any of us are more than happy to tell you what textbooks we used, which ones we didn't, how we studied for a class, if we made notecards, read a powerpoint or read a book, but you are going to get a different answer from almost everyone

Please do!!

 

[nasuthar]

Please do!!

I personally rarely used the textbooks because most of the exam questions came straight out of the lecture slides and only used the textbook as a reference when I needed clarification. These classes included physiology and anatomy. The only class that actually had required reading was pathology, but I just used a friends notes to study off of for that class.

I don't know how friendly the new class will be, but our class almost worked as a huge team collaborating on creating notes, memorization tables, flash cards and such. Administration seemed to like it when we mentioned our teamwork during the group interview and they definitely saw that during the interview how we were all comfortable conversing with each other during the group interview. So make friends with the people you sit around in class and work together but not necessarily study together.


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[Schultra]

How are the professors and what is the teaching style in the program? Thanks!

I thought the professors overall were great! They really do care about you and want to help you succeed. I have met with a lot of them one on one and they are always willing to help! So, the professor are fairly similar in that they all use powerpoints and just lecture from those. In the second semester there are some changes. For example, we have pharm workshops with the 2 pharmacology professors and some MS and work through cases and there are also forums for anatomy which are pp with questions and labeling that has to be done before forum because you can get called on randomly! Second semester is more interactive.

Would you recommend the BRS books only for physio or for biochem and other classes as well?

The physio and biochem and definitely the most useful. I would recommend the anatomy one as well but they actually will give you recommended practice questions from another book that are picked by the professors (I believe it is the one that corresponds with the textbook--Grays Review ed 2)

Hi I was recently accepted into the Post Bacc program for this cycle and was wondering what textbooks were used for sem 1? I heard that there are free PDFs available online, where can I find these? I want to start reading/preparing before classes start.

I was also wondering about the housing situation. Do most people dorm or get an apartment close to campus? How do people go about finding an apartment?

Thanks!

I used the physiology book a little bit not a lot. I would say buy the histo book because it is needed for both semesters. The other classes in the first semester I don't think is really necessary to use the books, but it is a personally choice on using them or not.

Lecom doesn't have dorms, so apartments and renting houses. If you want to share a house or looking for a roommate there are a ton of people looking on the Facebook pages. Laurel springs, laurel ridge and the hammocks are where many students live and all are extremely close to campus. Most people from laurel walk to school and the hammocks are down the street (I don't even think a mile). There is also a forum on the portal for roommates.

 

[DantheManimal]

...But I will say for pathology in the spring...BUY THE BOOK AND READ IT..

100% agree. It's pretty much a directed study course

 

[Scholar32]

Are there study guides and/or learning objectives to prepare for exams? Does anyone have a sample syllabuses for classes to an idea on structure, content, etc? Thanks!

 

[nasuthar]

Are there study guides and/or learning objectives to prepare for exams? Does anyone have a sample syllabuses for classes to an idea on structure, content, etc? Thanks!

There aren't any study guides but there are learning objectives that are listed for you at the beginning of each lecture/powerpoint. They will tell you day 1 that the learning objectives are high yield and you will learn quickly that literally studying only off the LO's will at least get you a B in most classes.

I don't have any syllabus' with me so maybe someone else can post them if we are allowed to but for most classes the general rule is that there will be roughly 10 exam questions per lecture day on the exam. So for instance if an exam covers 2 weeks of material there will be roughly 100 questions which would be further broken down to what classes you had in those 2 weeks. So if you had 4 lectures of Biochemistry and 6 lectures of Physiology you would be looking at 40 biochemistry questions and 60 physiology questions. Some classes will have quizzes and points on those have equivalent weight as exam points, so don't mess up quizzes. Theres a lot of quizzes in anatomy and although they are usually only 10points each, they add up over the semester and they are not any easier than the exams so you will have to study for anatomy quizzes as if you were studying for the actual exam.

 

[DexterMorganSK]

Anyone know if seats are still available? And do they send out acceptances through email or regular mail? Thanks!

 

[nasuthar]

Anyone know if seats are still available? And do they send out acceptances through email or regular mail? Thanks!

They send out acceptances up until a week before school starts so there should be spots available. Regular mail


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[GypsyHummus]

Still seats available. DO it dexter. Become a DO with us. if you mess up this program, you can always do pod later.

Anyone know if seats are still available? And do they send out acceptances through email or regular mail? Thanks!

 

[DexterMorganSK]

Still seats available. DO it dexter. Become a DO with us. if you mess up this program, you can always do pod later.

haaa I thought you were all set for Azpod?

I'm thinking about going for VCOM, if LECOM says no..lol

 

[sssdental]

Under my admission status it says

"The Admissions Committee has made a decision on your application. You will receive an official letter in the mail within 30 days."
Is there a way for me to check if I got accepted online or do I need to wait for the official letter.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Under my admission status it says

"The Admissions Committee has made a decision on your application. You will receive an official letter in the mail within 30 days."
Is there a way for me to check if I got accepted online or do I need to wait for the official letter.

Gotta wait

 

[Scholar32]

FORMER POST-BAC DENTAL HERE.

Hey guys, so I know scarce amount of information can be found about LECOM's post bac for DENTAL, so here I am to give the down low as I was on the dental track and wished more information was posted from former dental post bacs before I began the program. I’m going to give some statistics on the program as well as my experiences and opinions.

We started off with 12 dental (not 15). By the end of the first semester we lost 8 students or 2/3 of the class. Half way through the second semester, we lost another student and by the end of the program, only 3/12 completed the program, but only 1/12 was able to get the 3.0 GPA (on the dot) and successfully matriculated into the dental school. The other 2 students fell short of the 3.0 by 0.1-0.2 points.

Just a quick background, I had applied for dental school for the 2016-2017 cycle, but was rejected across the board because I had a low GPA. I decided I wanted to do either a Master’s or Post-Bacc program and was accepted to Midwestern AZ (Master’s), Rosalind Franklin University (Master’s), Boston University (Master’s), Rutger’s New Brunswick and the Newark location (Master’s) and LECOM (Post-Bacc). I chose LECOM because out of all the options, LECOM was the cheapest (14K) and it has the strongest linkage out of all the schools. On top of this, the idea of getting 3.0 for the linkage seemed like a cake walk, but I was wrong. As were the other 11 pre-dental students.

As said in other reviews, we were taking M1 level courses and a 3.0 in this program is equivalent to about a 3.7 or 3.8 undergraduate. The class that wiped out 2/3 of our class was Physiology and I think it should be taken into consideration that when dental students do this Post-Bacc, they are doing the program with medical students. Our class was 155 medical, 12 dental. Most of the medical students have had some exposure to Physiology since it is on the MCAT. Physiology is not a pre-req for dental students, nor is it on our DAT. Because this was the first time that many of the students were exposed to Physiology, it caused us to lose so many people. The four dental students that did make it to second semester all had a C in Physiology.

Second semester is when we had our interviews, but only 3 of us interviewed because the other student withdrew from the program. All 3 of us had under a 3.0 when we interviewed. The interview was in a group via Skype in a conference room at the school. During our interview, the dental school knew nothing about this program except that there was a linkage. They didn’t even know what classes we were taking and when we told them, they said we didn’t even need to take half of the classes for dental school.

A big problem with this program is that they do not care about the dental students. I have thought this and my peers have thought this. We were overlooked and virtually no information was available to us in regards to anything pertaining dentistry. When we asked what DAT score we needed for admissions, they did not know. They (director of the program, professors, and Jamie Murphy) couldn’t even tell us the statistics of the pre-dental students that were in the class the previous year and to this day, we still don’t know. One person said 4/10 successfully matriculated while another person said 14/15 matriculated. They literally do not know. I am telling you right now, for 2016-2017, 1/12 matriculated (got the 3.0 GPA) and the DAT score we needed was a 17 AA.

If only 3/12 of the students completed the program and 1/12 got the 3.0, there has to be something wrong. I also want to point out that during the last 3 weeks of school, dental took Head Anatomy while medical took Pelvis Anatomy. Head Anatomy was one of the hardest anatomy exams we had taken and our average was a 67 which brought down all of our grades. Pelvis Anatomy’s average was in the 80s and was one of the easiest anatomy exams medical had taken and boosted a lot of student’s grades.

If you are thinking about this program, please carefully consider it. All 12 of us thought we could get the 3.0, all 12 of us worked hard in this program and only 1 person made it. I want to remind you that a Post-Bacc is a high risk program and doing bad in Post-Bacc looks very bad to dental schools and has ruined the opportunity for many of the dental students. There is no leniency for dental even though 1. There are so few of us to begin with 2. We are taking medical school courses with no dental emphasis 3. We are given an anatomy exam where the dental average was an F while med had a B average. If you do decide to do LECOM, I hope they have made changes to be more accommodating to dental students. This is a genuine, honest review and I hope this helps any dental student considering LECOM. Best of luck and PM me if you need me to elaborate on anything more.

Thanks Floss Boss for your thoughts!

Does anyone in the post-bac have a different perspective on this and the program? I ask because I have heard the opposite from pre-dents in other years.

 

[DantheManimal]

Do any post bacc students in the 2016-2017 academic year or anyone else know how many medical post bacc students got into LECOM's DO program?

A little more than half

 

[GypsyHummus]

A little more than half

Ouch

Those are like carribean odds. But I soppose it is better tuition wise if you are going to take a risk to do so on LECOM rather than carribean.

 

[nasuthar]

Ouch

Those are like carribean odds. But I soppose it is better tuition wise if you are going to take a risk to do so on LECOM rather than carribean.

I wouldn't write off this program as some type of casino "odds game". Its not a flip of a coin if you will get in or not. You are in this program to prove yourself as a ready medical student. To the school, if you can succeed in this program, then there is high correlation that you will also be successful in med school. Your past MCAT and/or GPA wasn't enough to prove that you are med school ready, so the post bacc is an opportunity to show the school that you are actually serious about becoming a med student and you have what it takes to be a successful med student. Everyone I know that matriculated with LECOM from the post-bacc worked extremely hard from the first day to the last day of the program. Going into this program with the mindset that you are here to be successful and exceed all expectations is whats necessary, not "oh I'm just gonna slip by with a 3.0...". Aim for the 4.0, work hard, pay attention, don't party too much, be respectful, be professional and good results will come your way.

 

[Scholar32]

What campus are all post-bac classes at? Main building or Bayfront?

 

[nasuthar]

What campus are all post-bac classes at? Main building or Bayfront?

Main which is nice because you can interact with the MS1/2 students who are more than helpful in answering questions and the library is there if you want to study there.


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[knaq7]

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[knaq7]

Hey everyone,

I'm an incoming Post Bac (male). I'm set on getting a place in the Hammocks, is anyone else interested in getting a 2 BR 2 BATH apartment over there? If so, please shoot me a PM! Looking to move quickly.

Thanks!


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[vle]

Under my admission status it says

"The Admissions Committee has made a decision on your application. You will receive an official letter in the mail within 30 days."
Is there a way for me to check if I got accepted online or do I need to wait for the official letter.

How long did it take for you to hear back from them after you submitted?

 

[Scholar32]

Any important information (ppts, flyers, etc) from the open house that we should know? Wasn't able to attend. Thanks!

 

[GypsyHummus]

LECOMs post bacc curriculum is very rigorous. Thats a whole lot of science classes squeezed into 8 months.

If I recall, they had something like 170 people enter, and only 60-70 ended up with the 3.0. Those are Caribbean odds, but once you pass through that filter, the deal you get is so much better than Caribbean, its not even on the same scale. Overall, I would think this program is so much better than risking it overseas.

We can't ignore those odds however. remember the dental post? They had 15 dent students start out, all but 3 failed (FAILED) out, and of those 3, only 1 managed to get the 3.0. Considering pre dents take the same classes that premeds take, that leaves me a bit worried.

agreed, its far from a 'carribean program' imo. Caribbean programs are at a medical school level, post bacc is not medical school, but more like a med school prep course.
This post bacc program WANTs you to matriculate, because people that make > 3.0, tend to do well on the boards.. Carribean schools go out of their way to weed you out... I didn't really feel like they were trying to weed you out here at the post bacc program in lecom, but they sure as hell enforce their rules, when they say don't be late and don't cheat... Don't be late and don't cheat and don't cry when you break rules that they want you to follow. Simple instructions... but its fair and not unfair. Maybe the no food policy is unfair but thats for another discussion.... (I hate the no food/drink policy).
Carribean med school in some aspects is unfair, you could still graduate and not get a residency... not so much with LECOM, Over 99% people get a residency in LECOM.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Is it not a good thing to know what you are getting into?

Or are you a Han Solo type "Never tell me the odds!"

Every post I've seen from you in this thread is negative. If you're so worried about odds, you should do another program. You have said the same thing multiple times now, it's getting old.


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[738177]

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[GypsyHummus]

Hey, Should we be doing the post bacc or the medical masters degree?

 

[GypsyHummus]

Also, where is the best place to live apartment wise? I tried searching all of the LECOM site, and my acceptance packet, and can't find anything.

 

[gibranmd2]

I just got accepted, but am so lost and not sure whether this or Touro-Middletown is a better choice.

When do classes start? And does the AIS really replace the MCAT score?

 

[gibranmd2]

Also, my MCAT was well below the 40% mark at 487. Is there a place where I can check my AIS score?

 

[CM634]

Also, where is the best place to live apartment wise? I tried searching all of the LECOM site, and my acceptance packet, and can't find anything.

Laurel Springs, as millbish mentioned, is pretty good. Laurel Ridge is also managed by Pastore Builders and right next to school. Scenery Hills is pretty close too, just down the street.

Hey, Should we be doing the post bacc or the medical masters degree?

Most people do the post-bacc first, and then the Masters if they don't get the 3.0. But don't bank on the Masters as a back-up, they don't have very many spots (I think like 5 or 6 each year?). Unless you want a Masters before med school (perfectly reasonable), I'd recommend doing post-bacc.

 

[CM634]

LECOMs post bacc curriculum is very rigorous. Thats a whole lot of science classes squeezed into 8 months.

Med school is harder

If I recall, they had something like 170 people enter, and only 60-70 ended up with the 3.0. Those are Caribbean odds, but once you pass through that filter, the deal you get is so much better than Caribbean, its not even on the same scale. Overall, I would think this program is so much better than risking it overseas.

I think this program is better than the Caribbeans too

We can't ignore those odds however. remember the dental post? They had 15 dent students start out, all but 3 failed (FAILED) out, and of those 3, only 1 managed to get the 3.0. Considering pre dents take the same classes that premeds take, that leaves me a bit worried.

I'll get to that in a bit

 

[CM634]

It's interesting to hear two different interpretations on exam question structure and straightforwardness. I'm not sure what to believe; is there any general consensus on this? Does anyone have materials from last year?

I agree with Dan. I felt like a lot of the questions were PowerPoint bullets but in question format and with a medical twist. They won't be so straightforward as something like "What is ___?" though. Questions like the example Floss Boss mentioned definitely do show up, but they're among the tougher questions we got. There are some hard ones out there, especially in Pharmacology and Anatomy, but if you really know your stuff you should be ok. Remember, your patients won't be multiple choice.

I hope as you're reading through this thread, you're seeing a common trend in these posts about studying. There isn't just one way for you to learn and succeed in this program. Some people Anki'd their way to success. Others swear by BRS. Hopefully you'll learn what works for you quickly, but don't be afraid to be flexible.

The only times I used information from outside the PowerPoints was Dr. Lee's sections for physiology (like 80% of his slides are literally just figures taken from the textbook with no text), Pathology when Dr. Stevens explicitly told us to read certain sections because they're not in her PowerPoints, Intro to Med which was 100% book based, Histology for some extra pictures and cross-referencing, and Anatomy when I used Netter's Atlas and the Gray's Review Book. All the books for every class can be found in the library. The latest editions are reference only and can't be checked out, but someone you know probably has the PDF version, you just need to ask around. nasuthar's breakdown of the classes is also pretty spot-on.

 

[Schultra]

Also, my MCAT was well below the 40% mark at 487. Is there a place where I can check my AIS score?

College of Osteopathic Medicine Entrance Requirements - LECOM Education System

 

[Scholar32]

I agree with Dan. I felt like a lot of the questions were PowerPoint bullets but in question format and with a medical twist. They won't be so straightforward as something like "What is ___?" though. Questions like the example Floss Boss mentioned definitely do show up, but they're among the tougher questions we got. There are some hard ones out there, especially in Pharmacology and Anatomy, but if you really know your stuff you should be ok. Remember, your patients won't be multiple choice.

I hope as you're reading through this thread, you're seeing a common trend in these posts about studying. There isn't just one way for you to learn and succeed in this program. Some people Anki'd their way to success. Others swear by BRS. Hopefully you'll learn what works for you quickly, but don't be afraid to be flexible.

The only times I used information from outside the PowerPoints was Dr. Lee's sections for physiology (like 80% of his slides are literally just figures taken from the textbook with no text), Pathology when Dr. Stevens explicitly told us to read certain sections because they're not in her PowerPoints, Intro to Med which was 100% book based, Histology for some extra pictures and cross-referencing, and Anatomy when I used Netter's Atlas and the Gray's Review Book. All the books for every class can be found in the library. The latest editions are reference only and can't be checked out, but someone you know probably has the PDF version, you just need to ask around. nasuthar's breakdown of the classes is also pretty spot-on.

Thanks for your response! I am a pre-dent. considering this program and have taken most of the post-bac courses at the undergrad level (except immuno, pharm, and histology) with around a 3.1-3.2 avg. gpa for those upper level courses. I have heard a lot of negatives about pre-dental in this program (not sure if its because of their lack of undergrad prep or not working hard enough), but would like to know where I stand in terms of prior prep. and grades compared to pre-med students in the program

 

[CM634]

Thanks for your response! I am a pre-dent. considering this program and have taken most of the post-bac courses at the undergrad level (except immuno, pharm, and histology) with around a 3.1-3.2 avg. gpa for those upper level courses. I have heard a lot of negatives about pre-dental in this program (not sure if its because of their lack of undergrad prep or not working hard enough), but would like to know where I stand in terms of prior prep. and grades compared to pre-med students in the program

I had a 2.9 science GPA and 3.25 cumulative GPA in undergrad. I hadn't taken physiology, histology, pharm, anatomy, and a couple of the other classes before, and I passed. I didn't get into med school the first time I applied, thus the post-bacc. Careful with comparing stats with other people on SDN though. It can turn into a toxic black hole.

Yeah, sad to hear that so many dental students didn't make it... I don't think comparing the matriculation statistics for dental vs medical students means much though. If both students are taking the same courses, then that means LECOM holds their dental students to the same standards as their medical students. I want to assume dentists are just as capable as medical doctors. To expect more leniency for dental students implies otherwise.

I do agree with Floss Boss that some of the courses might be irrelevant for dental students. But again, the standards thing. If medical students can do it, so can dental right? I don't know much about dental requirements, but from what I've read, it sounds like post-bacc is more of a chance to show LECOM that you are ready for their dental program rather than learning things that pertain to dentistry. Most people are taking the post-bacc because their grades/scores weren't good enough to get in the traditional way or because they're changing careers. This program is a pretty good way to show LECOM that you can do it. And nothing wrong with knowing a little more about the human body, might come in handy someday.

About the whole head/pelvis thing in anatomy... Yes, dental students learn head while medical students learn pelvis. Yes, head is definitely harder. But if the rest of post-bacc is irrelevant for dental, I would think then, that the head is the most relevant part of the program. Heck, I'm sure dentists actually know more about the head than the average doctor. Because they need to. The fact that dental students have to do head shouldn't be a point to complain about, but rather a point of necessity and maybe even pride. It's like wanting to be an orthopedic surgeon and complaining that you have to look at more X-rays than a primary care doctor does. You're going to be looking at more heads, might as well get a head start.

I've seen a lot of people work hard and still not get in. So it's not a matter of putting effort in, there must be some other factor(s). I don't know what though. Study hard and study smart? As for not having sufficient undergrad prep, dental/medical schools won't make their classes easier just because someone did an "easier" major or school. Just gotta suck it up and work harder.

As for the lack of support for the dental application, that really sucks. Maybe the one student that did get in is keeping an eye on this thread and can help you? Or perhaps even older post-bacc dental students, sounds like you talked to a couple of them already.

 

[GypsyHummus]

What was your daily schedule like?

How long each day did you study for?

Why do you think so many people dropped and or failed out? Im really nervous about the program, how hard would you say is it compared to biochemistry and organic chemistry courses in college?

I had a 2.9 science GPA and 3.25 cumulative GPA in undergrad. I hadn't taken physiology, histology, pharm, anatomy, and a couple of the other classes before, and I passed. I didn't get into med school the first time I applied, thus the post-bacc. Careful with comparing stats with other people on SDN though. It can turn into a toxic black hole.

Yeah, sad to hear that so many dental students didn't make it... I don't think comparing the matriculation statistics for dental vs medical students means much though. If both students are taking the same courses, then that means LECOM holds their dental students to the same standards as their medical students. I want to assume dentists are just as capable as medical doctors. To expect more leniency for dental students implies otherwise.

I do agree with Floss Boss that some of the courses might be irrelevant for dental students. But again, the standards thing. If medical students can do it, so can dental right? I don't know much about dental requirements, but from what I've read, it sounds like post-bacc is more of a chance to show LECOM that you are ready for their dental program rather than learning things that pertain to dentistry. Most people are taking the post-bacc because their grades/scores weren't good enough to get in the traditional way or because they're changing careers. This program is a pretty good way to show LECOM that you can do it. And nothing wrong with knowing a little more about the human body, might come in handy someday.

About the whole head/pelvis thing in anatomy... Yes, dental students learn head while medical students learn pelvis. Yes, head is definitely harder. But if the rest of post-bacc is irrelevant for dental, I would think then, that the head is the most relevant part of the program. Heck, I'm sure dentists actually know more about the head than the average doctor. Because they need to. The fact that dental students have to do head shouldn't be a point to complain about, but rather a point of necessity and maybe even pride. It's like wanting to be an orthopedic surgeon and complaining that you have to look at more X-rays than a primary care doctor does. You're going to be looking at more heads, might as well get a head start.

I've seen a lot of people work hard and still not get in. So it's not a matter of putting effort in, there must be some other factor(s). I don't know what though. Study hard and study smart? As for not having sufficient undergrad prep, dental/medical schools won't make their classes easier just because someone did an "easier" major or school. Just gotta suck it up and work harder.

As for the lack of support for the dental application, that really sucks. Maybe the one student that did get in is keeping an eye on this thread and can help you? Or perhaps even older post-bacc dental students, sounds like you talked to a couple of them already.

 

[CM634]

What was your daily schedule like?

How long each day did you study for?

Why do you think so many people dropped and or failed out? Im really nervous about the program, how hard would you say is it compared to biochemistry and organic chemistry courses in college?

Not much time for anything besides school. Woke up, studied, went to class, studied some more, slept. Fit in breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I tried to get 7-8 hours of sleep every day. Classes don't begin until 2 PM most days. I actually like their no food, no drink policy. If you study on campus, it forces you to get up and walk to the cafeteria and take breaks if you want to eat or grab a coffee. Try to put in some "me" time in your daily schedule as well, like whatever your hobby might be or exercising or something. Time management and efficiency is important.

Not including class time, I studied for probably 9 hours a day on weekdays. Class is scheduled for 2-6 PM, but you get out by 5 most of the time. Weekends were pretty much studying all day, but there's time to fit in errands like grocery shopping or whatever else.

I don't think the classes are much more difficult than undergrad, it's just way more. One day's worth of material in the post-bacc was probably like a week at my undergrad. You adapt though, and some material is definitely easier than others so you can allot your time for each lecture accordingly. The material is also more broad. For example, in biochem, you will go over things like enzyme kinetics and protein structure. But you'll also go over diseases caused by defects in cycles and normal body processes, but from a biochem perspective. The medical context makes it more interesting and practical. It's closer to physiology sometimes, but that's not necessarily bad. You'll see the same things multiple times and it gets easier to remember each time. You'll spend less time on it, leaving more for the newer/harder stuff.

I don't know why some people didn't make it. Hopefully someone is tracking this thread as well and can tell you what they'd change/give advice. But think about yourself as well. Like I said, most people do the post-bacc because their academics weren't good enough. What would you change if you could redo undergrad? Or if you had more time to retake the MCAT/DAT? Identify your own weaknesses and strengths and do something with it.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Is there tutoring or supplemental instruction available? what is it like?

Not much time for anything besides school. Woke up, studied, went to class, studied some more, slept. Fit in breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I tried to get 7-8 hours of sleep every day. Classes don't begin until 2 PM most days. I actually like their no food, no drink policy. If you study on campus, it forces you to get up and walk to the cafeteria and take breaks if you want to eat or grab a coffee. Try to put in some "me" time in your daily schedule as well, like whatever your hobby might be or exercising or something. Time management and efficiency is important.

Not including class time, I studied for probably 9 hours a day on weekdays. Class is scheduled for 2-6 PM, but you get out by 5 most of the time. Weekends were pretty much studying all day, but there's time to fit in errands like grocery shopping or whatever else.

I don't think the classes are much more difficult than undergrad, it's just way more. One day's worth of material in the post-bacc was probably like a week at my undergrad. You adapt though, and some material is definitely easier than others so you can allot your time for each lecture accordingly. The material is also more broad. For example, in biochem, you will go over things like enzyme kinetics and protein structure. But you'll also go over diseases caused by defects in cycles and normal body processes, but from a biochem perspective. The medical context makes it more interesting and practical. It's closer to physiology sometimes, but that's not necessarily bad. You'll see the same things multiple times and it gets easier to remember each time. You'll spend less time on it, leaving more for the newer/harder stuff.

I don't know why some people didn't make it. Hopefully someone is tracking this thread as well and can tell you what they'd change/give advice. But think about yourself as well. Like I said, most people do the post-bacc because their academics weren't good enough. What would you change if you could redo undergrad? Or if you had more time to retake the MCAT/DAT? Identify your own weaknesses and strengths and do something with it.

 

[CM634]

Is there tutoring or supplemental instruction available? what is it like?

If you're doing poorly, you can request a tutor. It will be a volunteer first or second year, so space may be limited. Otherwise, you'll just have to find a super friendly med student on your own. During second semester, the med students will probably do (optional) review sessions for anatomy. They go over things they found high yield (which is like everything) and take you into the cadaver lab. Beyond that, I don't recall there being much other supplemental help.

 

[Schultra]

If you're doing poorly, you can request a tutor. It will be a volunteer first or second year, so space may be limited. Otherwise, you'll just have to find a super friendly med student on your own. During second semester, the med students will probably do (optional) review sessions for anatomy. They go over things they found high yield (which is like everything) and take you into the cadaver lab. Beyond that, I don't recall there being much other supplemental help.

I did use the tutors, and my experience was awesome! I will add that if you are having trouble with anything schedule a meeting to talk to the professor! They are great and always willing to help from my experience and give great studying tips...they want to see you succeed which is really encouraging. There are also excel sessions that are optional and useful in teaching test taking strategies regarding the material that is being covered in the class.

 

[GypsyHummus]

Do you have to be doing poorly in order to receive a tutor?

I did use the tutors, and my experience was awesome! I will add that if you are having trouble with anything schedule a meeting to talk to the professor! They are great and always willing to help from my experience and give great studying tips...they want to see you succeed which is really encouraging. There are also excel sessions that are optional and useful in teaching test taking strategies regarding the material that is being covered in the class.

 

[Schultra]

Do you have to be doing poorly in order to receive a tutor?

Depends on a situation, if you feel like you need one and feel like you are struggling you would talk to Maricely and she would refer you to tutoring services. I wasn't doing terrible,I was far from failing but felt like I needed someone else to explaining some concepts differently and I was set up with an awesome tutor!


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[GypsyHummus]

Are the tutoring services free?

Depends on a situation, if you feel like you need one and feel like you are struggling you would talk to Maricely and she would refer you to tutoring services. I wasn't doing terrible,I was far from failing but felt like I needed someone else to explaining some concepts differently and I was set up with an awesome tutor!


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[Schultra]

Are the tutoring services free?

No it is free


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[oliverqueen]

Any accepted students plan on retaking their MCAT if they're below 40th percentile?

 

[GypsyHummus]

Any accepted students plan on retaking their MCAT if they're below 40th percentile?

Nope.

They told me my AIS was fine as is.

 

[Kouneko]

Pre-dent here. 2 quick questions:
1. Under the admission requirements, for dental track, there is this "Earn a cumulative grade point average of 2.7 or higher on a four-point scale with no course lower than a “C”;" requirement. Does that mean if I have a D or an F (all passed after retaken), I am automatically disqualified?

2. Does the letter of rec have to be specifically addressed to the program or we can use the rec letters for dental/med schools?

Thanks!

 

[nasuthar]

Pre-dent here. 2 quick questions:
1. Under the admission requirements, for dental track, there is this "Earn a cumulative grade point average of 2.7 or higher on a four-point scale with no course lower than a “C”;" requirement. Does that mean if I have a D or an F (all passed after retaken), I am automatically disqualified?

2. Does the letter of rec have to be specifically addressed to the program or we can use the rec letters for dental/med schools?

Thanks!

There's are no D grades. Anything under 70 is considered F. You cannot matriculate with an F grade and you cannot retake the class. You can have all As and an F in a 1 unit class and you will not be able to matriculate. That's why they say don't just write off the 1 unit classes because you're not allowed to fail any class in the program.

I think a letter specific for the program is better but general letters are fine


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[Kouneko]

There's are no D grades. Anything under 70 is considered F. You cannot matriculate with an F grade and you cannot retake the class. You can have all As and an F in a 1 unit class and you will not be able to matriculate. That's why they say don't just write off the 1 unit classes because you're not allowed to fail any class in the program.

I think a letter specific for the program is better but general letters are fine


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Nono the rule didn't refer to the grades you earn in the program, it referred to the admission to the post-bacc requirements. Health Sciences Post Baccalaureate Entrance Requirements - LECOM Education System