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Yes, so National Guard and HPSP Is separate right? I meant National Guard IS Army, so I figured it might disqualify me later on.
In order to be in HPSP you MUST be in the Reserves. You MUST NOT be obligated to any other source that requires you to "repay time" to that source or entity be it the Active Reserve, National Gaurd, state, WAMMI, etc. Basically, the students that we see come to HPSP after being in the National Gaurd have been discharged from their unit after fulfilling their contract. There are some (very few) who have been allowed an early discharge in order to pursue a medical degree with the HPSP. Do not count on being allowed to take money from your home state National Gaurd and being discharged because you want to attend medical school, your chances of this are slim at best.
ROTC is a little different. The students who used ROTC to help pay for undergrad, can apply for and hopefully be allowed an educational delay to attend medical school. Then, the time owed for ROTC is added to the time owed for HPSP.
So I'm planning on going back to school from January. What are the proper steps I should take? Should I talk to a recruiter?Lots of people already have on this very forum. Start at the beginning.
My question is: HPSP Looks straight forward: 1 year of Med school-1 year of payback as an active duty service. But:
1. Does residency in the Army count as payback?
2. How is Payroll as a working Army Physician? Dr pay+Base pay by rank (sounds too good to be true so I don't belive) Or just the officer pay?
Can anyone please comment on the Pros vs. Cons of doing the HPSP through the army, air force, or navy. Which is better? does it matter? do you have more opportunities with one over the other?
Thank you for any input you can offer.
For those who take FAP or HPSP, does the service obligation have to be completed in active duty? Or can it be completed in the Reserves?
Did you know that if you are trained in one of the Military Specialties with Critical Shortages, your HPSP years will count for retirement, one year gets added for every SELRES year you complete. I have attached the newest Critical Shortages list, as well as the Instruction detailing the Service Credit for HPSP/FAP . Please let me know if you have any questions.
I doubt it. You can post any info you'd like. There is nothing secret or mysterious. But maybe you were called out for spamming half the threads on the first page. Answer his questions. Can't wait to read it.
What program are you discussing with a recruiter? You do know that Reserve Medical Corps Officers deploy, right?I am looking into taking up the Army or the Air Forces' medical school assistance program. I am a first year med student that is newly married and bought a house. My wife is okay with this if they are able to keep me at a reserve level and my repayment is on a reserve basis. I have spoken with a recruiter and know to get everything in writing before agreeing to join up.
For those of you who have gone through this program, Army or AF, would you do it again or would you have just increased your loan amounts? The $2300/month stipend is pretty attractive to me right now; and the fact that they wouldn't be able to dictate my specialty is attractive as well.
What program are you discussing with a recruiter? You do know that Reserve Medical Corps Officers deploy, right?
Make sure you are fully aware of what you are signing up for before trying to join the reserves. The military doesn't need reservists because we love having you drill on the weekends. We have reserves so that you can be mobilized when needed. If you aren't enthusiastic about the opertunity to deploy do not join. Don't be the guy who is shocked when he is asked to mobilize, it's a huge disruption on your life but it should be an expected disruption.I believe the stipend program is in the Reserve Medical Corps. http://www.goarmy.com/amedd/education/graduate-health-care-education.html
No, I didn't know that. I have not met with the recruiter yet, just a phone call. Our meeting is tomorrow.
What did the AMEDD Recruiter you met with say about Loan Repayment and Stipend programs?Spoke to the recruiter and someone who went through the FAP. Any ideas from those of you in the know about whether they will eventually let those in residency to do med. school repayment loan, the residency pay, and the previous FAP, as apparently that is currently not an option?
Also, anyone who has info. about the Walter Reed transplant fellowship program with UMB would be appreciated, as they are not responding to my emails or calls to ask about number of spots in the fellowship, average stats for those who are accepted, and whether this is considered a military fellow. or a civilian one.
The recruiter said nothing about it. The student that just went through it and went to the meeting with the office that controls the program said they currently do not let students do all 3 programs. The student I talked to didn't know whether they would reverse that or not, but told me not to plan on it.What did the AMEDD Recruiter you met with say about Loan Repayment and Stipend programs?
Based on your meeting with the recruiter and FAP recipient, what does the FAP program offer that the others don't?The recruiter said nothing about it. The student that just went through it and went to the meeting with the office that controls the program said they currently do not let students do all 3 programs. The student I talked to didn't know whether they would reverse that or not, but told me not to plan on it.
Spoke to the recruiter and someone who went through the FAP. Any ideas from those of you in the know about whether they will eventually let those in residency to do med. school repayment loan, the residency pay, and the previous FAP, as apparently that is currently not an option?
Also, anyone who has info. about the Walter Reed transplant fellowship program with UMB would be appreciated, as they are not responding to my emails or calls to ask about number of spots in the fellowship, average stats for those who are accepted, and whether this is considered a military fellow. or a civilian one.
Are there any Army Veterinarians on here that can provide insight on the HPSP?
I would like to know the process to applying for the HPSP.Hi. What questions do you have?
How is it now that the Army is downsizing? Is it harder to get in, or is it fairly constant?
Are there any Army Veterinarians on here that can provide insight on the HPSP?
Does anyone have any insight about the HPSP selection schedule?? I've been in the process of applying for HPSP since maybe late feb. for the 4 year AF scholarship, and everything has been moving very slowly. I'm afraid I missed out on all the four year scholarships but my recruiter says I'm still fine and that there are still some. I'm dying to know when the May board selection date is, because I have so many other things to work out before school starts depending on if I get into this program or not....does anyone know when the May board is??
The Army requires all single Soldiers or Soldiers that are married to another service member to have what is called a Family Care Plan (DA Form 5305). You talk to your relatives/significant other and decide who is going to take care of your kid(s) if you are TDY or deployed, and then both parties sign and you submit it to your command. It doesn't have to be your next of kin, but obviously someone you trust to be an adult while you are gone. They are not written in stone and can be updated any time there is a change. AR 601-105 is the regulation that covers admission requirements to UHSU. It's 145 pages. As a career AG officers I always tell all the Soldiers that I take care of that they are their best advocate and that when they have questions to take the initiative to dig into the regs. I cannot tell you the number of times I have dealt with supervisors or superiors that had an impact on my career that started to make decisions that effected me without knowing what the regulation outlined. Your recruiter SHOULD know all the ins and outs, but if you decide to give UHSU a shot, be your own best advocate and know your stuff ahead of time.Does anyone know if USUHS accepts single parents?
There is a very high likelihood that you may end up "working" for someone that is medical service or AMEDD branched that is not an MD/OD. In this instance they aren't going to be wearing the healthcare provider hat. They will be giving you input and instruction on administrative types of issues because they are your commander or XO. Everyone in the army answers to someone else, even generals. I can't speak from experience about healthcare on the civilian side, but I assume civilian doctors are accountable to hospital administrators, board members, and licensing organizations. I would be more concerned with getting the respect of your enlisted Soldiers and knowing how to lead. That means being physically fit, knowing how to handle your weapon, wearing your uniform correctly, and behaving in a mature and responsible manner. The profession of arms has a long and storied history and although you will be a physician you will still be an officer in its ranks. Respect is our touchstone. As you long as you have the right attitude you shouldn't encounter too many people with a "Little Napoleon Syndrome" as they tend to get weeded out before they get promoted to Major.Is there a little Napoleon syndrome with working for a PA or a nurse when you are a physician in the AF?
I am thinking about signing up for the FAP in the AF, but I am concerned about having a PA or nurse over me that can't handle the fact that I'm a physician.
Mr. Duncan,about me, I am going to be a first year medical school this coming fall. I recently met a military recruiter at a family gathering. I believe he is my distance cousin's boyfriend and he is currently serving in the U.S Navy. We talked and I thanked him for his service then i proceed to asking about what he does in the navy . So we talked and he told me he is a dentist and he is getting out next year to practice on his own. He also said he doesn't have any loans because the navy pay for his dental school as well as his cost of living while he was in dental school. He said I could get the same thing from the navy if I accept a military scholarship in return for a 4 year service . By this time, I am super interested and ready to join the military because the though of not having to pay for medical school is really appealing to me. But I forgot to ask him a few more questions so I hope to get my questions answer here.
Here are my questions
1) can I bring my girlfriend with me when I am deployed or bring my wife if I'm married?
2) will the military allow me to choose my specialty ?
3) what is expected of me if I accept the scholarship?
4) what is my day to day work like as a military doctor?
5) do I get to pick where I want to station ?
6) how much am I expected to get paid in total per year so I can budget Accordingly?
7) how many patients will I see everyday?
8)I want to spend quality time with my patients , will the military restrict me from spend more time my patients?
9) finally, will nurses have authority over me because my cousins boyfriend says he has to answer to nurses sometimes because they outrank him?
Thank you!