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Does anyone know what the availability is like for Navy FAP in OB/GYN right now? I'm currently trying to decide between a couple years of HSCP and FAP, and the likeliness of getting the FAP for an OB/GYN residency would really help the decision process. Unfortunately, my recruiter hasn't been very helpful in the matter.
You might be able to slip in at the end of a fiscal year if there are unused quotas, but OB is not a high priority for FAP.
I have been doing a fair amount of research into Navy HPSP, and saw mention here and there about automatic acceptance into the program given certain GPA and MCAT scores. Does anyone have any info?
Also, I know it is possible, but what are the chances of wanting to do pediatrics in the Navy and actually getting to?
Also, I recently spoke with a Navy OB/GYN who is fresh out of the Portsmouth residency. They informed me that having to do GMO/flight surgery/dive after your intern year is less common in OB/GYN than other more competitive subspecialty areas. Is this true?
Hi, I'm new-ish to the site, I'm getting ready to start GWU in Aug 11 ($55k/yr tuition alone), so I've been looking into milit programs. The FAP looks good to me as I do want to do a civ residency, but I'm interested in pathology (clinical not forensic) and derm----anyone can direct me to a place/website where I can see if any of the major branches --army, navy, etc would offer FAP programs to docs who want to specialize in these fields. Anybody out there w/a sense of how likely I am to get a FAP in these specialities?
Also, is age a factor, by the time I"m done w/residency I'll be about 46-47, is that a problem? What is my life likely to be like if I were in a FAP, would I be working in a facility in the US or is shipment overseas/action areas--Iraq etc a certainty? Also, people here keep mentioning a "gmo tour"---what is that?, is it only found in the hpsp program or is it also common w/FAP? I'm fairly free of connctions, family/kid-wise and wouldn't mind traveling and seeing places like Iraq---but, I wouldn't want to be stationed there out in the desert in tents and/or esp in the line of fire.......is that what I'd be getting myself in for????
Please anyone w/some facts/guidance your input is greatly appreciated!!
Hi, I'm new-ish to the site, I'm getting ready to start GWU in Aug 11 ($55k/yr tuition alone), so I've been looking into milit programs. The FAP looks good to me as I do want to do a civ residency, but I'm interested in pathology (clinical not forensic) and derm----anyone can direct me to a place/website where I can see if any of the major branches --army, navy, etc would offer FAP programs to docs who want to specialize in these fields. Anybody out there w/a sense of how likely I am to get a FAP in these specialities?
Also, is age a factor, by the time I"m done w/residency I'll be about 46-47, is that a problem? What is my life likely to be like if I were in a FAP, would I be working in a facility in the US or is shipment overseas/action areas--Iraq etc a certainty? Also, people here keep mentioning a "gmo tour"---what is that?, is it only found in the hpsp program or is it also common w/FAP? I'm fairly free of connctions, family/kid-wise and wouldn't mind traveling and seeing places like Iraq---but, I wouldn't want to be stationed there out in the desert in tents and/or esp in the line of fire.......is that what I'd be getting myself in for????
Please anyone w/some facts/guidance your input is greatly appreciated!!
So i am a little confused here about the HPSP and how you have to payback your scholarship. If i do a military residency that is 5 years long, does that count as my 4 years repayment for the scholarship? would i be done when im done with my residency or would i have to serve more time on active duty if i do a 5 year residency program?
If you are a single parent, you need to put together your contingency plan.Does anyone know if USUHS accepts single parents?
If you are a single parent, you need to put together your contingency plan.
I have heard AF path was not giving out FAP due to adequate numbers of that specialty. You can always talk to an AF recruiter (but verify independently what they say). More than likely, if you get trained in a specialty you will deploy in that specialty but there are plenty of exceptions to that in my experience.Hi, I'm new-ish to the site, I'm getting ready to start GWU in Aug 11 ($55k/yr tuition alone), so I've been looking into milit programs. The FAP looks good to me as I do want to do a civ residency, but I'm interested in pathology (clinical not forensic) and derm----anyone can direct me to a place/website where I can see if any of the major branches --army, navy, etc would offer FAP programs to docs who want to specialize in these fields. Anybody out there w/a sense of how likely I am to get a FAP in these specialities?
Also, is age a factor, by the time I"m done w/residency I'll be about 46-47, is that a problem? What is my life likely to be like if I were in a FAP, would I be working in a facility in the US or is shipment overseas/action areas--Iraq etc a certainty? Also, people here keep mentioning a "gmo tour"---what is that?, is it only found in the hpsp program or is it also common w/FAP? I'm fairly free of connctions, family/kid-wise and wouldn't mind traveling and seeing places like Iraq---but, I wouldn't want to be stationed there out in the desert in tents and/or esp in the line of fire.......is that what I'd be getting myself in for????
Please anyone w/some facts/guidance your input is greatly appreciated!!
My application for an Army HPSP was denied today on the basis that I have a 7 in the physical science section of my MCAT. Everything else in the packet is good, (3 years experience as an emergency room nurse, 3.8 GPA with both a bachelors of science and masters degree, research experience and publications as a first author, letters of recommendation from leaders within the medical and materials sciences/chemistry communities, passed MEPS without any problems physically I'm in very good shape). My recruiter suggested that I retake the MCAT but with only 3 months before I start medical school and a full acceptance in hand, I have very little inclination to do so. If I come back and apply for a 3 year scholarship will I face the same problem with my MCAT score? If so is there any alternative route I could take that will provide me with financial assistance while in school?
I thought that you could request an MCAT waiver for not scoring an 8 or above in each section. Is this not so?1. You are welcome to apply for a three year scholarship with the same MCAT, however, you will need to provide your first and second semester transcripts along with the application.
2. The only other option that comes to mind would be to apply to the other services.
Thanks for responding so quickly! If only the powers that be at AMEDD would respond as quickly and in a favorable mannerYou can request a waiver for a score below 8, but you are not very competitive. Applications are up, so there is more room to say no to lower scoring applicants.
Unfortunately, that is not how the payback process works. You will incur a year of payback for each year of residency. In your case, after 5 years of residency you would owe 5 years on active duty. The good news is that the 4 years you owe for HPSP can be payed back concurrently with the time owed for residency. Hope that helps clarify.
Hey guys
So I've applied for the Navy HPSP, and I was wondering if anyone knew if going to ODS (I don't know what the other branches call their "officer training") is covered by the military clause, since you get orders to report and it's considered active duty??
Are you talking about getting out of a lease?
yea, sorry I didn't specify
Is one eligible to apply only after acceptance into a medical school?
Should we get the ball rolling before an official acceptance?
You can get the ball rolling before an acceptance. Probably best to do it that way. Then, once you have an acceptance, it goes pretty quickly. Everything with the military is a paperwork nightmare so start early.
But really, you should not apply. And if you're in, you can withdraw in your first two years without penalty.
You will be a better physician, with better training, and a competent staff if you do.
Inside, you will be frustrated by a system that provides substandard medical care with poor customer service and a host of inefficiency. You will be ashamed of the incompetence of your peers and you family suffers for the ridiculous tasks you have to perform as a physician.
No! You can't withdraw from USUHS! Its a 7-year stint! You are thinking about the service academies that let you leave after the first two years.But really, you should not apply. And if you're in, you can withdraw in your first two years without penalty.
You will be a better physician, with better training, and a competent staff if you do.
Inside, you will be frustrated by a system that provides substandard medical care with poor customer service and a host of inefficiency. You will be ashamed of the incompetence of your peers and you family suffers for the ridiculous tasks you have to perform as a physician.
I met with a recruiter and I don't completely believe what he was telling me about this program. I would really appreciate clarification.
The recruiter told me that: Medical school + Residency (of my choice- civilian or air force) with the 4 year HPSP would result in a 3 year military pay back.
My understanding (from reading posts on SDN, etc) was that you pay back 1 year of time for every year of medical school the military pays for. Then, if your residency is longer than your 4 years of medical school, you pay back the military 1 year for every year you are in your residency (up to 8 years military pay back).
Also, I thought there was some sort of a penalty for taking a civilian residency versus a military residency.
I brought all of this up multiple times, but was told that I would have a maximum of a 3 year pay back. It doesn't seem right.
Please help me figure this out! Thanks
Your payback at the end of your military residency will be EITHER the length of your HPSP commitment OR the length of your residency commitment (not counting Intern year), whichever is more. If you do a GMO tour (do you understand those?) then the time you owe for a residency you do at the end of your GMO tour will be either the length of the residency or the length of the time you have left on your contract at the end of your residency, whichever is more.
When you take the HPSP scholarship you need to ask permission to do the civilian match. If they say no you can't do it, you have to do the military match. Plan for that to happen as deferments are rare. If they let you apply for a civilian residency, it doesn't affect your payback in any way. The only penalty is that civilian residency time doesn't count towards promotion or retirement, while a Navy residency does. Which is a big deal if you want to make a career out of it, but not otherwise.