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I recently found out that I was "inducted" into the Gold Humanism Honor Society. Although I know it's not near as prestigious as AOA, I am actually quite honored as students are nominated/selected by their peers as well as faculty and it is supposed to award excellence, integrity and character in clinical medicine .

I was just wondering how many other schools/students have or are aware of this award, and if it has any impact on your residency application(ie will PDs even recognize/value it, or is it regarded as being too obscure or silly).

thanks

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Unfortunately, the selection process for this award is nothing more than a popularity contest at my school (you get elected by fellow classmates, and if you by some misfortune you took a year off or something and dont know anyone in your new class, forget it, you're totally out of the running). I agree, it does say something about interpersonal relationships, but more so among fellow students (which is a great quality of course), at least where I am. Of course some of the students who make it are absolutely great and caring to patients, but I know many classmates in my previous class and the class before that who I thought were very deserving of this award and didn't get it (and some people who did get elected but who I'd beg to differ on being the most caring to patients).

If the determining factor is voting by fellow students, of course this will happen. I mean, we rotate with 1/6th to 1/12th of the people in our class. At that, we only get to see how students on our own team interact with patients. Personally, by the end of MS3, I was familiar with only maybe 10 students' patient interactions, if that. I dont know if the voting process is the same at your guys' schools, but I dont see how this system is supposed to really represent what it's meant to.

But congrats guys. . .your interpersonal skills are strong, whether with patients or with fellow students (and both are very important)!!
 
it's a sham
 
In some respect it is a popularity contest. That being said I think you have to be collegial to your colleagues and I at least hope a part of it had to do with TRULY caring for my patients. Our school it is a vote but then attendings have some say and so do the people at school. In reality who else knows how you treat pts besides your classmates and SOME attendings. Just the reality. Good luck with interviews.
 
not when it is voted on only by peers, and there is a healthy mix of tools in with the righteous peeps. at my school last year, it was simply the people who most frequently partied together. an honor? yes. a representation of humanistic attributes? hardly.

when a dude who has said i want to go into x specialty because i want x income at minimum and don't wanna have to deal with all the b.s. of sick patients is amongst your 'gold humanists', you may want to rethink the process. having faculty input doesn't really address that. if you are going to have an award that implies one student has superior humanistic qualities, you may want to involve patients in the process somehow. after all they have feedback forms at mcdonalds, they can have them at teaching hospitals as well.

it's all good to me, i landed a sweet residency w/o it. but if it's bogus, it's bogus.
 
Can't say I entirely agree with "bogus" and "sham" being fair descriptors of this award(at least at my school). The selection process for my class involved nominations from all students over preclinical and clinical years(necessitating nominations from more than those in your social circles to be selected), faculty/attending input, and a review of the students' clinical evaluations and community service experience. While there certainly is a degree of subjectivity and "popularity" effect, I think overall there isn't really a more accurate way of selecting students for this type of honor(other than the aforementioned patient surveys, which doesn't seem entirely feasible to me).

Also, I feel that the aim of the award is valid, in that it takes more than academic prowess to be a solid physician in the vast majority of fields and that there should be some recognition for students who excell in professionalism, bedside manner, etc. We have AOA(which is fraught with it's own inherent weaknesses in terms of the selection process btw) for academics, but medicine involves more than striving for an encyclopedic knowledge base. That's what separates this profession from Phds, JDs, and many other fields.

At any rate, I'm still curious if anyone has had interviewers or PDs acknowledge this award on interviews or otherwise. Any anecdotes?
 
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Can't say I entirely agree with "bogus" and "sham" being fair descriptors of this award(at least at my school). The selection process for my class involved nominations from all students over preclinical and clinical years(necessitating nominations from more than those in your social circles to be selected), faculty/attending input, and a review of the students' clinical evaluations and community service experience. While there certainly is a degree of subjectivity and "popularity" effect, I think overall there isn't really a more accurate way of selecting students for this type of honor(other than the aforementioned patient surveys, which doesn't seem entirely feasible to me).

Also, I feel that the aim of the award is valid, in that it takes more than academic prowess to be a solid physician in the vast majority of fields and that there should be some recognition for students who excell in professionalism, bedside manner, etc. We have AOA(which is fraught with it's own inherent weaknesses in terms of the selection process btw) for academics, but medicine involves more than striving for an encyclopedic knowledge base. That's what separates this profession from Phds, JDs, and many other fields.

At any rate, I'm still curious if anyone has had interviewers or PDs acknowledge this award on interviews or otherwise. Any anecdotes?

Well if so, then there shouldn't be such an "honor society" in the first place. . .or it should be called something else. Cause when the hard partiers win just for being partiers and the truly collegial and patient-caring students dont, it sends a message that the way to act is however the "partiers" are acting, discouraging the humanistic students who did not receive the honor from continuing to act the way they are acting.

I strongly believe that every person in medical school should have the patient as the top priority, and the colleague as the next priority. I think it takes a lot more than just having an honor society that students compete to get elected for, to teach and foster such an attitude. in fact by introducing the competition factor, i feel it's a bit of a detriment to developing a sincere caring attitude and genuine collegiality among colleagues--instead breeds fakeness, even if original intentions were sincere.

Oh, and popularity does not always equal collegiality. It's always easy to work well with people you're already friends with. Much more challenging to be able to work with someone you dont know well or who may not mesh perfectly with your personality or work style.

I agree, it is a total sham the way it's done at my school.

I think a fairer way to honor the most caring students is to have housestaff nominate med students they feel exhibit those qualities. Like we do, vice versa, for the Little apple Awards.
 
Like with every other extracurricular activity or "honor", it is just another way to pad your resume for when you apply for residency.
 
Never heard of it personally.

sounds nice though.

later
 
trotter said:
I recently found out that I was "inducted" into the Gold Humanism Honor Society. Although I know it's not near as prestigious as AOA, I am actually quite honored as students are nominated/selected by their peers as well as faculty and it is supposed to award excellence, integrity and character in clinical medicine .

I was just wondering how many other schools/students have or are aware of this award, and if it has any impact on your residency application(ie will PDs even recognize/value it, or is it regarded as being too obscure or silly).

thanks

I was not inducted to this very prestigious society. I cried in bed when I found out I don't have any friends in class. Oh, the pain, the pain....

This award is a joke in my school. We have people campaigning other classmates to vote for them. The most hated person (egotistical, backstabbing, shallow, selfish, eeew-looking) in my school was inducted to this BS society. It just ruined the whole thing for everyone involved. When a third of the class receive this "award", you know it's BS. They should just give it to one or two people. This would make it more meaningful. With that being said, there are people out there that totally deserve the award. I just feel bad that they have to share the honor with people from the other end of the spectrum.
 
jc237 said:
I was not inducted to this very prestigious society. I cried in bed when I found out I don't have any friends in class. Oh, the pain, the pain....

This award is a joke in my school. We have people campaigning other classmates to vote for them. The most hated person (egotistical, backstabbing, shallow, selfish, eeew-looking) in my school was inducted to this BS society. It just ruined the whole thing for everyone involved. When a third of the class receive this "award", you know it's BS. They should just give it to one or two people. This would make it more meaningful. With that being said, there are people out there that totally deserve the award. I just feel bad that they have to share the honor with people from the other end of the spectrum.

EXACTLY how it is at my school. :thumbdown: There are a few well-known negative people that get it every year, which totally discredits the award for everyone else who got it, as well as in the eyes of the entire student body. But hey, that's what happens when people start competing over "humanism".
 
I like the patient input. I know at my school it is a popularity contest with some of the most unhumanistic members
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not when it is voted on only by peers, and there is a healthy mix of tools in with the righteous peeps. at my school last year, it was simply the people who most frequently partied together. an honor? yes. a representation of humanistic attributes? hardly.

when a dude who has said i want to go into x specialty because i want x income at minimum and don't wanna have to deal with all the b.s. of sick patients is amongst your 'gold humanists', you may want to rethink the process. having faculty input doesn't really address that. if you are going to have an award that implies one student has superior humanistic qualities, you may want to involve patients in the process somehow. after all they have feedback forms at mcdonalds, they can have them at teaching hospitals as well.

it's all good to me, i landed a sweet residency w/o it. but if it's bogus, it's bogus.
 
chicamedica said:
...when people start competing over "humanism".
Maybe instead of an honor society, we could have the Humanism Olympics. Then, instead of some silly honor society, you could brag about your medal in 100-meter empathy.
 
At my school 10% are inducted into the GHHS. I was among those selected. While I can see why some question the selection process, my selection is not consistent with this generalization. As a commuter (60 minutes each way for three years) I have never been to a med school party and only socialize with three classmates outside of school. Take from that what you will.
 
we had this thing too; it's all BS.

it wasn't even a popularity contest for us. we all just nominated our friends and i don't think there was even a vote. to give you a hint of how prestigious it was, the nomination took place on match day when everyone was already drunk.
 
It sounds like the majority of those who received this award think it's valuable and those who didn't don't. Sort of interesting.

I really like the idea of the Humanist Games and the 100 Meter Empathy. Maybe Bill Clinton could throw out the first "I feel your pain."
 
Check out this recent thread for a less envy-driven discussion of the Gold Humanism Award (regarding its significance in the residency application process). Say what you will, but from all indications (outside of this thread!), the award is considered an honor. Congratulations to those who received the award!!:claps:
 
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Check out this recent thread for a less envy-driven discussion of the Gold Humanism Award (regarding its significance in the residency application process). Say what you will, but from all indications (outside of this thread!), the award is considered an honor. Congratulations to those who received the award!!:claps:

Sweet! 4 Year Necro-bump. This thread was dead for good reason. Hopefully it will get re-buried but I somehow doubt it. Strong work sir.
 
Sweet! 4 Year Necro-bump. This thread was dead for good reason. Hopefully it will get re-buried but I somehow doubt it. Strong work sir.


You are most very welcome :lol:
 
At my school, it seemed to be kind of a joke.....

The 4th year class nominated people by email, then the faculty had input as well. Apparently no one really voted, so we got 3-4 emails from the deans scolding us for not voting, then finally, a bunch of tools nominated themselves/each other.

I feel like because it's such a joke at so many schools, it may have the reputation of being a joke to at least some programs, which is a shame for those schools that actually take this award and the selection process seriously.
 
Has anyone heard of the Chancellor's list? it's something like who's who. i was nominated probably because i got a 4.0 in an MBA in healthcare management after med school. can that help?
should i put that i got a 4.0 on my CV or is it totally irrelevant?
 
Does this prestigious honor charge you for the privilege of being a recipient? Or being a member of their society? Or any money for anything at all? Because if any of these things are true, it's bull**** and it doesn't matter. If it's all free or if it comes with a scholarship or something then it is a good thing!

If it is the former, it's like phi beta kappa. I got inducted into that. What a joke!
 
Phi Beta Kappa does not charge you to get the award, and it's a pretty nice academic honor (hard to get and a lot of colleges/universities can't get a chapter). At least they didn't charge last time I looked.
 
Has anyone heard of the Chancellor's list? it's something like who's who. i was nominated probably because i got a 4.0 in an MBA in healthcare management after med school. can that help?
should i put that i got a 4.0 on my CV or is it totally irrelevant?

The 4.0 is irrelevant, leave it off your cv
 
Phi Beta Kappa does not charge you to get the award, and it's a pretty nice academic honor (hard to get and a lot of colleges/universities can't get a chapter). At least they didn't charge last time I looked.
I think they charged me a "application processing" fee, like 30 bucks or something. Maybe it's a school by school thing.
 
Phi Beta Kappa does not charge you to get the award, and it's a pretty nice academic honor (hard to get and a lot of colleges/universities can't get a chapter). At least they didn't charge last time I looked.

Yeah but they charge you to be a member afterwards.
 
Phi beta kappa doesn't charge you to be a member. In fact, they actually give out scholarships to high school students, etc. but they don't charge for the membership. If your school charges you, then it's some processing fee of their own. Once you are in, it's a lifetime membership. If you want to order a name plate, pin, etc. then you pay for that, but they don't charge for membership. They used to send out their newsletter a couple times a year for free, but I think they were going to start charging for that, which seems fair since they have to pay to print the thing. I don't know about this Gold society or whatever...

p.s. I don't think Phi Beta Kappa is one of those bogus honor societies since I'm a member. Therefore, they must only pick "deserving" people. Since the Gold Society never picked me, that must mean it's a bogus honor society :laugh:
 
I recently found out that I was "inducted" into the Gold Humanism Honor Society.
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But what exactly does this award accomplish? Supposedly awards for academic excellence, like phi beta kappa, AOA, are given to motivate students, and perhaps to give a feather in the hat for students who are exceptionally good at studying. Surely AOA helps with residency placement.

I would have to conclude that the goal of the humanism award is to help a subset of students with residency placement, so reward students who are seen as humanistic by their peers and faculty. You can see how this could be a popularity contest, I am most humanistic/kind with patients during one on one, not during rounds.

In essence the reward may be a popularity contest, especially if some people campaign for it (how humble). However, all doctors who are in contact with patients really need to be humanistic, and I would think that most med students are very humanistic, so this award must measure something else. If not, then are the majority of med students not humanistic?

Certainly, medicine is a dehumanizing process, for both students and patients, and the end product is much more callous than what entered (on average), so promoting humanistic ideals would seem to be important, but it rarely gets the attention it supposedly deserves:

Have you turned a blind eye when an attending harassed a fellow student?

Have you turned a blind eye when residents made mean remarks about patients?

These things aren't addressed, but rather a relative handful of students are put up on a pedestal. What do program directors think? They want humanistic residents, sure, but they really want competent residents who can handle huge patient loads in some specialties. How would a surgical residency PD think about a student who won a "humanism award"? Would they think that such an honored med student would expect that their work environment be "humanistic"? Beats me, but you can that this award could be used in different ways by different people. I would think that FP and Peds would prize humanism, but there are some pretty gruff FP's out there too. Personally, I wouldn't want such an award because nobody is perfect and you need to strive to be humanistic to be good at it.

In the end this reward may do more harm than good because it tells the majority of students that they weren't good enough to get the humanism award, and are in essence, somehow less humanistic than other students.

Even prestigious awards can be heavily affected by politics, . . .President Obama won a Noble Peace Prize basically because liberals in Sweden like his politics . . . he is also prosecuting two wars and has escalated the use predator drone attacks in Afghanistan. Former White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel would ask each day how many Talibans they killed during the night. . . Don't get me wrong, I dig the President's politics and all, but I don't think he deserved this rather prestigious award for "Peace" as escalating a war is incompatible with the highest ideals associated with pacifism and human rights in my mind.

A lot of silly meaningless stuff happens in medical school, handing out "humanism awards" is one of them.

Also, I don't think students who didn't get the award are going to try to be more humanistic as the award is handed out once, and you are humanistic with patients to ease their pain and have a more productive relationship, . . . not to get something to put on your resume.

I knew one of the attendings who handed out this award, . . . not a nice person, what a joke! People in academic medicine are not necessarily the nicest or most humanistic people, in fact some like the power they can lord over students way too much, so I think it is silly that attendings have a say in this as it has more to do with how fast you can run to get the patient's vitals and the attending's coffee cup.

I propose renaming it the . . .

Gold Medical Student Sychophancy Award
 
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