Hi, as an international medical graduate, and before trying to start the USMLE journey! I would like to know my chances in ENT (otolaryngology) residency? Is there a good chance or I shouldn't even bother?
Of the 299 ENT spots this year in the match..... 94.6% of them were filled with US grads.
I think it does. It just says US seniors. Not US allopathic or US osteopathic. I'm not sure though. Page 26 of 2015 main match statisticsDid DOs count within the US grads or the other 5.4%?
No. DOs count in the independent applicants category.
US seniors refers only to US MD.
ENT and dermatology are the only two specialties I wanna work in, so this is why I'm asking in both sections, I live outside the US so I need advices and info as much as possible, the usmle system is very different from the way medical schools outside US teach. No matte how good you are you will have a tough time preparing and you know it's not easy, so I needed to know my chances before putting all this effort!You posted in the Derm forum asking the same question. Are you interested in Ophtho and RadOnc as well?
PM&R seems to be up and coming. Might want to check that one out too while you're shopping around.
You just made a point! So there is no chance? Because there's always Europe, especially Germany filled with spots in ENT and other competitive specialties. I was asking because USA is my No.1 choice but if chances are near to zero point something % then I'll see a different path to choose. Thank you anywaysYou're all getting way too deep in the weeds in this one. There were a grand total of 16 people last year who were not M4s from US MD schools that matched in ENT.
I don't know the OP, or his/her stats. But the OP is not matching in ENT. I have a $100 bill for him/her if s/he does.
The biggest population within this group is FMGs (~7400), followed by IMGs (~5000), followed by DOs (~3000), followed by former US grads (~1500).
you really want to practice in ENT or Derm? stay in your own country where you can already practice or have the best chance to practice...your shot in the US is close to nil...people say it and the numbers support it...what more do you want?ENT and dermatology are the only two specialties I wanna work in, so this is why I'm asking in both sections, I live outside the US so I need advices and info as much as possible, the usmle system is very different from the way medical schools outside US teach. No matte how good you are you will have a tough time preparing and you know it's not easy, so I needed to know my chances before putting all this effort!
Agree with @rokshana (and everybody else here). If it's ENT, Derm or nothing, then stay home. Because if you come to the US, you will get "nothing".you really want to practice in ENT or Derm? stay in your own country where you can already practice or have the best chance to practice...your shot in the US is close to nil...people say it and the numbers support it...what more do you want?
you really want to practice in ENT or Derm? stay in your own country where you can already practice or have the best chance to practice...your shot in the US is close to nil...people say it and the numbers support it...what more do you want?
FINALLY an optimistic answer, THANK YOU ALOT MAN , at least I'll have a motivation to study usmle now, thank you a lotDerm (esp Univ of Miami) has lots of foreign graduates in their derm residencies. It seems derm is more open to taking foreign applicants than ENT.
FINALLY an optimistic answer, THANK YOU ALOT MAN , at least I'll have a motivation to study usmle now, thank you a lot
It appears (at least at U of Miami) that the road to a Derm residency there as a foreign grad is to graduate a long time ago and then toil in one of their research labs for several years before being offered a spot. Hardly encouraging but hey, as long as the OP recognizes that's what the cost of admission is, fair enough.Derm (esp Univ of Miami) has lots of foreign graduates in their derm residencies. It seems derm is more open to taking foreign applicants than ENT.
It appears (at least at U of Miami) that the road to a Derm residency there as a foreign grad is to graduate a long time ago and then toil in one of their research labs for several years before being offered a spot. Hardly encouraging but hey, as long as the OP recognizes that's what the cost of admission is, fair enough.
FINALLY an optimistic answer, THANK YOU ALOT MAN , at least I'll have a motivation to study usmle now, thank you a lot
The U of M has 3 (IIRC) FMG derm residents currently but as I noted above all of them appear to have spent years doing research on there before getting a spot.Also, Duke Otolaryngology has a current resident that earned a MBBS from England where he is from. University of Miami has lots of foreign MD as fellows. However, not sure about the residency itself there.
It appears (at least at U of Miami) that the road to a Derm residency there as a foreign grad is to graduate a long time ago and then toil in one of their research labs for several years before being offered a spot. Hardly encouraging but hey, as long as the OP recognizes that's what the cost of admission is, fair enough.