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Just curious
Just curious
My #1 regret in college was applying all my AP credits. I wish I had taken the general bio courses and bumped up my GPA (those are A LOT of GPA credits). Without them, (as I did) you will essentially "thrown out to the sharks" and will be taking upper division bio courses from the start which is REALLY not fun as you're just adapting to a college curriculum.
What he means, is that he got really good grades when he took general biology at college. (it was easy to do well because he already took AP bio). Presumably, there was also more time to study for other classes, since you wouldn't need to spend so much time on biology, since you would be somewhat familiar.Hey Springrolls, what do you mean by "taken the general bio courses and bumped up my GPA"? How does that work with AP credits and all in college?
Rather than taking AP HS courses, I opted to take college courses offered through an early start program by a community college. It allowed me to start college courses in my junior/senior year. A concern regarding taking AP courses is HOW they transfer to a lot of colleges. I was advised to do what I did after taking an AP English course, which transferred to college as an extracurricular credit rather than an actual English credit.
If this is an option for you to pursue I would do so!
Why do you think this is better than AP classes? I've heard of more stories of where dual enrollment came to bite people in the ass when it came to applying to med school.I did dual enrollment instead of AP's, and I think it's the best option. Just make sure you get good grades because those grades you earn in HS/CC dual enrollment WILL affect the GPA you apply to med school with.
Why do you think this is better than AP classes? I've heard of more stories of where dual enrollment came to bite people in the ass when it came to applying to med school.
I don't see any way they can bite anyone in the ass except for in one way, the way they will with me: Not treating them like "the real deal" and doing poorly/a mediocre job in them. I think there are two reasons (but NOT good excuses) for this:
A.) It's surreal, so not taken seriously-
B.) Senioritis. Horrible excuse but it's easy to fall into. Don't consider it your senior year/the end of high school. Just move on and consider it your first year of college. It's easy to do if you DE all your classes. I did and I didn't even go to the HS ALL YEAR.
- all your friends are going to HS taking BS classes, doing BS busy-work and you're going to class maybe as little as 3 days a week or 5 days a week for a couple hours, and
- It doesn't really hit you that it's the "real deal." I think because there's an attitude that likes to discredit young premeds, premeds in community college, and you're both - you haven't even graduated HS yet. You need to constantly remind yourself that it is real, you are a "real premed" because these WILL be on your AMCAS and this IS an MCAT subject class.
DUAL ENROLL ALL MY HS-SENIOR CLASSES??
Yup and here's my argument:
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- Premed classes at the community college are fine. Especially the first year ones, like biology. Especially especially as dual enrollment (being "ahead" of your HS class and not "behind" because you just couldn't get into a better college.) In most states, they really aren't sub-standard. A lot of medical schools accept AP as fulfilling the prereq, but a lot don't. Almost all say that CC classes do, even the Ivy's.
- It may help you get into a better 4-year university. Recovering from something? Want an academically-oriented edge on your common app? There's no better way to rebound/redeem some old HS grades than to take some college classes and do well in them - (1) they're simply better indicators you will do well in college and (2) unlike many high schools, you will have a complete fall transcript to show 4-years, while HS class grades will still be in progress, thus you can't really salvage/improve much during your senior year.
- It saves you time. The non-premed classes your high school makes you take will fulfill a lot of your humanities/social science general education requirements in college. If you have to take a social science elective (say sociology,) English, and whatever else your high school makes you take, and you have to take freshman composition at college, and a social science elective there, why do it twice? Just kill two birds with one stone. It will also increase the liklihood you will COMFORTABLY graduate in 4 years, and maybe even earlier.
- You are absolutely prepared, I promise. At this point, senior year high school classes aren't going to prepare you/make you more capable of college than you already are. Many of my friends took AP English-Lit/AP English-Lang, some AP history classes, AP Chem, and they had classwork out the wazoo - just to have the amount of assignments highschools often require, just useless busy-work (dumb crossword puzzles, word searches, quizes all the time.) What I'm saying is its easy to lose track of - college is easy - you get a syllabus that lists a few tests/projects/papers, maybe a small homework grade (and homework in college is actually usefull practice, not just for the sake of it) with the due dates and you put all your energy into getting good grades on the handful of assignments the course prescribes. I found college composition I/II to be so much easier than the AP route.
- It saves you (your parents) money. A lot of people think "Yeah dual enrollment is nice if your parents want to pay $2000 for a semester of HIGH SCHOOL." But you have to realize, most of these are classes you're going to be taking anyway, that will cost A LOT more at a 4-year.
- It's a great way to transition to college work. Would you rather transition to college work at the same time you're adjusting to living away from home, rushing a frat, whatever? no. DE is a great in-between.
- And if you do f up in HS dual enrollment, it looks slightly better to get bad grades in HS-DE (obviously you don't want to do this - I lose sleep over it, but if you have to) than freshman year-college. See the attached image of how your GPA trend is viewed. You would rather a GPA youre not proud of be in the "High School" slot, wouldn't you?
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