Baylor vs NYU (Time Sensitive)

[5418512180218458]

BAYLOR
Pros

• In the Texas Medical Center
• Family/fiance is here
• Want to live and practice in Texas so Baylor is great for the networking
• Dream school!!

Cons

• Cost

NYU
Pros

• Higher US News Ranking
• Good learning experiences at Bellevue
• Cost

Cons

• Away from family/fiancé/support system.
• NYC seemed a bit too hectic for me
• Have to abandon my pets

I am interested in going into academics, if I can make it, so reputation does play some role in my decision making.

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[5418512180218458]

I can't edit my post, so I will add this:

I never thought this would happen, but I got taken off a waitlist. I'm pretty conflicted at the moment because I had already made plans on going to my dream school (since forever). On the other hand, the COA difference is over 200k.

 

[infinityavenue]

Wait, NYU is 200k cheaper? Everything you've written screams Baylor to me but coming out of medical school in 200k less debt is significant, especially if it's at a higher ranked school. I guess it's important for you to decide if 4 years with your support system is worth 200k. I don't think you'll have trouble matching to Texas back home especially if you appropriately schedule aways.

 

[5418512180218458]

Wait, NYU is 200k cheaper? Everything you've written screams Baylor to me but coming out of medical school in 200k less debt is significant, especially if it's at a higher ranked school. I guess it's important for you to decide if 4 years with your support system is worth 200k. I don't think you'll have trouble matching to Texas back home especially if you appropriately schedule aways.

Yeah NYU is over 200k cheaper. I've always dreamed of going to Baylor though and all of my people are there. I don't know anyone in NYC, nor have I ever been outside of the interview process. It's a bit daunting.

I've heard the general sentiment is always money over everything, but I guess I still would like to hear from people regardless. Thanks!

 

[Dox4lyfe]

Holy crap this is an interesting situation. I'd say nyu all the way! It's so much cheaper and it's an amazing school. Also, although the city does seem incredibly daunting at first and probably will seem that way for quite some time, once you get used to the city life after a few weeks, you'll start to love it. A few of my friends even decided to stay there despite initially wanting to eventually move back home.

If cost wasn't a factor, the obvious choice would have been baylor. The Texas medical center and high ass step scores. It's a perfect deal. However, the 200k that you can save going to nyu seals the deal for nyu. Although you'll be stepping outside of your comfort zone, it's a perfect chance to start fresh in a new place and make new friends.

 

[TheCoolBean]

Congrats on the choices, both great schools ! I am going to have to offer a different opinion and choose Baylor. Just a disclaimer though that I know very little about both schools and am basing my opinion strictly on your pros and cons.

The advantages of NYU seem less serious than those of Baylor, yet the cons seem more serious. From an outsider perspective, it seems that you are drawn to NYU because of the better ranking and reputation. While NYU does have the edge in both, the difference (12 vs. 21) is not that big of a deal and you will probably be fine coming from either school. The cost difference is exorbitant, but you will be able to make it back as a doctor and your dollar will probably go much further in Texas than in NY. You will get good learning experiences at Bellevue with a more diverse patient population, but I imagine a school as well-known as Baylor will provide somewhat similar experiences.

Medical school is tough, and I personally could not put a price on being near my SO (and pets in your case) and having social support throughout those tough times. Add that to the fact that Baylor is your dream school and you want to match into Texas, and the choice is clear for me. One last thing that I want to say is that New York can be too hectic for people, it certainly gives off that vibe, and add that to the fact that you will be away from your fiance and pets, it might affect your happiness and hence your performance.

Best of luck on your decision

 

[787593]

BAYLOR
Pros

• In the Texas Medical Center
• Family/fiance is here
• Want to live and practice in Texas so Baylor is great for the networking
• Dream school!!

Cons

• Cost

NYU
Pros

• Higher US News Ranking
• Good learning experiences at Bellevue
• Cost

Cons

• Away from family/fiancé/support system.
• NYC seemed a bit too hectic for me
• Have to abandon my pets

I am interested in going into academics, if I can make it, so reputation does play some role in my decision making.

How on earth is NYU cheaper??

Never abandon your pets!

 

[thenucleusaccumbens]

4 years of med school without my fiancé and pets would be rough. Personally I don't think I could put a price tag on this.

What is your total COA for each school? My friend goes to NYU and shared that he is paying over $80k each year. Did you get a huge scholarship there? Also isn't Baylor only like $20-$25k per year for TX residents? I always thought it was one of the more affordable schools.

 

[DokterMom]

Gotta say that I too am wondering how NYU can possibly be $50K per year less expensive than Baylor. You are counting total cost of attendance rather than tuition, right?

Also, @TheCoolBean brings up an excellent point about the relative importance of your pros and cons. NYC is not for everyone, and if it's not right for you, you'll be in a world of hurt at a particularly stressful time.

 

[5418512180218458]

Yes I'm counting total cost of attendance. With housing and stuff, Baylor is 45-50k, and NYU will be 0.

My mind says NYU but i would be throwing away a lot personally.

 

[Lawpy]

Yes I'm counting total cost of attendance. With housing and stuff, Baylor is 45-50k, and NYU will be 0.

My mind says NYU but i would be throwing away a lot personally.

wait what? NYU is essentially a full ride? i'd go to NYU for sure. but who knows, personal factors may matter more but only you can answer that.

 

[vm26]

Yes I'm counting total cost of attendance. With housing and stuff, Baylor is 45-50k, and NYU will be 0.

My mind says NYU but i would be throwing away a lot personally.

Forgive my ignorance but I am still confused as to why you would receive a full-ride at NYU but nothing at Baylor. Aren't both school similar in terms of competitiveness?

As others have alluded to, NYC is not for anyone. As a single guy I enjoyed my time there as a resident. Not quite sure I would have enjoyed it if my significant other, dog etc were halfway across the country

 

[thenucleusaccumbens]

Yes I'm counting total cost of attendance. With housing and stuff, Baylor is 45-50k, and NYU will be 0.

My mind says NYU but i would be throwing away a lot personally.

if NYU is paying for your housing and the total cost of living in addition to tuition that's a ridiculously good deal, almost unheard of. Do you think your fiancé would consider moving with you to NYC?

 

[5418512180218458]

Forgive my ignorance but I am still confused as to why you would receive a full-ride at NYU but nothing at Baylor. Aren't both school similar in terms of competitiveness?

As others have alluded to, NYC is not for anyone. As a single guy I enjoyed my time there as a resident. Not quite sure I would have enjoyed it if my significant other, dog etc were halfway across the country

Thanks for your experience. Do you believe 4 years will be unbearable?

Yeah I'm quite flabbergasted and humbled as well. I was never the superstar applicant so this came out of nowhere. I keep thinking it's some sort of mistake, but it seems to have happened. I feel like Bighead from Silicon Valley. Baylor would be full cost.

if NYU is paying for your housing and the total cost of living in addition to tuition that's a ridiculously good deal, almost unheard of. Do you think your fiancé would consider moving with you to NYC?

Its being considered, but at the moment unlikely due to job and family concerns.

This is the most tremendous opportunity I've ever received in my life. NYU the school itself is absolutely fantastic!! Just personal ties to location. Still very conflicted...

 

[jcorpsmanMD]

Thanks for your experience. Do you believe 4 years will be unbearable?

Yeah I'm quite flabbergasted and humbled as well. I was never the superstar applicant so this came out of nowhere. I keep thinking it's some sort of mistake, but it seems to have happened. I feel like Bighead from Silicon Valley. Baylor would be full cost.



Its being considered, but at the moment unlikely due to job and family concerns.

This is the most tremendous opportunity I've ever received in my life. NYU the school itself is absolutely fantastic!! Just personal ties to location. Still very conflicted...

Sometimes you have to make the hard decision. I don't want to be that guy but you don't know where you and your gf will be 3,5, or 10 years down the line. Plus, I'd assume that if you were in this predicament your gf would be telling you to choose NYU (i know my gf would) because it's your best choice. Good luck OP. Sometimes you have to think with your head instead of your heart, I know it doesn't make it any easier though.

 

[bonedoc5576]

Baylor is one of the best deals in all of medicine, but going to NYU on a full ride is an amazing opportunity that many would favor over virtually any top ranked medical school. With money saved you could fly your fiancee out to New York every other weekend, splurge, and still come out ahead financially. Students were far more impressed with NYU after second look than during interviews as NYU does not roll out the red carpet until after students are admitted. It is a great program, surging in the rankings, with amazing clinical opportunities all within walking distance and located in one of the most appealing areas of Manhattan for twenty somethings.

 

[DokterMom]

This might be one of those situations where you contact Baylor, explain the situation, and ask if there's anything they can do for you to make the financial gap smaller. They can't fault you for asking (nicely) so the worst that can happen is "Sorry - no" which is where you are now anyway... And good point about flying your SO out a few weekends a year --

 

[Goro]

Very hard choice! Which do you like more, NYC deli food, bagels and pizza, or barbecue and Tex-Mex?????

Both cities are saunas in the summer, so they're even there.

Rankings by USN& WR are worthless. The only people who fall for them are pre-meds and medical school deans.

BAYLOR
Pros

• In the Texas Medical Center
• Family/fiance is here
• Want to live and practice in Texas so Baylor is great for the networking
• Dream school!!

Cons

• Cost

NYU
Pros

• Higher US News Ranking
• Good learning experiences at Bellevue
• Cost

Cons

• Away from family/fiancé/support system.
• NYC seemed a bit too hectic for me
• Have to abandon my pets

I am interested in going into academics, if I can make it, so reputation does play some role in my decision making.

 

[jcorpsmanMD]

Very hard choice! Which do you like more, NYC deli food, bagels and pizza, or barbecue and Tex-Mex?????

Both cities are saunas in the summer, so they're even there.

Rankings by USN& WR are worthless. The only people who fall for them are pre-meds and medical school deans.

@Goro but he has a full ride at NYU! Saving him ~200k in debt if he attends. I think his decision should have much more to consider other then food - personally though, I visited NYC two months ago and it's a foodtopia

 

[mwsapphire]

I'd choose NYU if you can tolerate NY, but seriously, how is it less expensive than Baylor? You're from TX, instate costs should be less than an OOS school? That's so confusing.
Edit: I'm aware he likely got a scholarship, but the odds of that still seem slim- getting a scholarship at NYU that makes it less expensive than your own state school, in TX nonetheless ( which I think has low IS tuition). It's just jawdropping. My comment was more surprise how he didn't get a scholorship at his own state school, since that was much more likely that getting a scholorship at NYU.

 

[787593]

I'd choose NYU if you can tolerate NY, but seriously, how is it less expensive than Baylor? You're from TX, instate costs should be less than an OOS school? That's so confusing.

Looks like he got a big scholarship at NYU

 

[Goro]

@Goro but he has a full ride at NYU! Saving him ~200k in debt if he attends. I think his decision should have much more to consider other then food - personally though, I visited NYC two months ago and it's a foodtopia

I'd say take the free ride.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Honestly call Baylor and tell them the situation. It can't hurt to ask. If they can't lower the cost then I would ask your SO if they would move to NYC to you because I could never pass up a free ride to NYU.

 

[vm26]

Thanks for your experience. Do you believe 4 years will be unbearable?

Yeah I'm quite flabbergasted and humbled as well. I was never the superstar applicant so this came out of nowhere. I keep thinking it's some sort of mistake, but it seems to have happened. I feel like Bighead from Silicon Valley. Baylor would be full cost.



Its being considered, but at the moment unlikely due to job and family concerns.

This is the most tremendous opportunity I've ever received in my life. NYU the school itself is absolutely fantastic!! Just personal ties to location. Still very conflicted...

How engaged are you? Are we talking ring given, date/venue set etc? Or is it like we've been together for a bit and marriage is sorta the long term assumption? If she is the one and TX is where you want to be longterm, and your family/support system is there, then I would go with Baylor. Personally I would rather spend $200K than waste 4 years of living away from loved ones/friends/family/pets (particularly during a super stressful period where I needed them the most), I could probably do a year but not 4...

 

[Nymphicus]

Not considering the fiance situation, NYU is the clear winner for a difference of $200,000.

 

[5418512180218458]

How engaged are you? Are we talking ring given, date/venue set etc? Or is it like we've been together for a bit and marriage is sorta the long term assumption? If she is the one and TX is where you want to be longterm, and your family/support system is there, then I would go with Baylor. Personally I would rather spend $200K than waste 4 years of living away from loved ones/friends/family/pets (particularly during a super stressful period where I needed them the most), I could probably do a year but not 4...

Thank you. 4 years is a long time. From your experience, how difficult is it to pay off 200k of federal loans if I end up in academics or a traditionally lower paying field such as family medicine or pediatrics? I will be an older student, but I don't have any significant savings built up.

 

[vm26]

Thank you. 4 years is a long time. From your experience, how difficult is it to pay off 200k of federal loans if I end up in academics or a traditionally lower paying field such as family medicine or pediatrics? I will be an older student, but I don't have any significant savings built up.

I started med school at age 30 without significant savings. Took out about 165K, I was fortunate that this was all covered by federal loans at a low interest rate (3.1%). My monthly payments are about $850 (30 year loan). I am specialist in private practice (which is more lifestyle oriented than money driven) and $850/month is very do-able, I doubt I will take the full 3o years to pay it off though I could given the low rate.

I've lived/trained in NY, OH, and CA. Based on my experience, I think the difference between private practice and academic with respect to income is overstated at times and is greatly influenced by geography and work hours/volume. I know that a significant amount of the academic physicians in OH where I trained make more than I do in private practice in CA, plus they have a state pension. I think you will be fine, particularly if you live in TX.

 

[878956]

I'd go with NYU to be honest., That full ride is too clutch to turn down. Welcome to the big apple.

 

[DokterMom]

@5418512180218458 - So which did you choose? What happened?

 

[begoood95]

Don't leave us hanging!!