Happy Thanksgiving email from Morristown, who previous rejected me lol
LMFAO
Happy Thanksgiving email from Morristown, who previous rejected me lol
LMFAO
Same.Rejection Northwell
had 7 interviews with mixed categorical and preliminary positions. ranked 10
Wow, that's amazing. Atleast you know you'll be having a career in surgery with that many IVs. : )
If you don't mind me asking, how did you rank 10 if you had 7 IVs?
Also, I was hoping you could offer some advice on what I should do. I only had two IVs but they were mixed. How should I go about ranking them? Im extremely positive I won't land a cat spot since my CK score was pretty low. As a result, I don't mind getting prelim. I'm willing to work hard to convert into a cat.
Program A - prelim
Program B - prelim
A - cat
B - cat
OR
A - cat
A - prelim
B - cat
B - prelim
in case if you rank first 2 - cats, and the last 2 prelims, And say you don't land cat this year, you wont get anyway one of those prelims? Or it's about that maybe somebody somewhere ranked that prelims higher than you? That's the point?
So what are you recommending that I go with this schematic instead?
Prelim
Prelim
Cat
Cat
I had a "we'd be honored to be a part of your residency training" as well as just a "Thanks!" <= in reply to me telling them I was ranking them first. I didn't think it would be possible to examine the meaning of a "!" so in depth.
Yes, there is a game to be played with both sides telling each other that they ranked the other person"high". In essence, this means actually nothing. High is relative... it could mean 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. I feel that telling a program you are ranking them "first" is a much different story. Let's say there are 5 spots, and the program has ranked you 6. If they know you ranked them first... You never know what may happen. For big name institutions who match their top picks every year, this probably has no effect whatsoever. BUT if you're dealing with programs who struggle to rank applicants at the top of their list (or programs who get close to, or have participated in the SOAP in previous years), letting them know you ranked them number 1 may give them some security in their rank order list that they could potentially have one less spot to worry about.
You can tell programs whatever you want, but just know that if you tell a place you are ranking them #1 (but don't really), and if they rank you #1, AND you don't wind up matching there... it's 100% clear that you lied and you have no idea what the repercussions will be. They could (for instance) hold a grudge against your school and never interview another applicant again, they could see you at a conference etc... the world of surgery isn't terribly large. I strongly disagree with telling programs you are ranking them 1, unless you actually are. If that's the case, I kept my "letter of intent" email short and sweet.
PD-
After a long interview season my rank list is finally submitted. I am writing you today to inform you that I have ranked the surgical program at the university of yahoo number 1. I hope all is well with you and your team.
Student name
AAMC ID: 0987765543123151423
CW? A lot of my friends got the same emailDid anybody get a certain email from a certain program in the midwest telling them their application was favorable and that they were going to be ranked for their preliminary program?
CW? A lot of my friends got the same email
Congrats guys to those of you who matched. I unfortunately didn't even match. One of the programs interviewed me and didn't even rank me, considering they have two unfilled spots in SOAP.
Hello folks, I have a question and maybe some of you can explain to me. I am thinking too much about the visa issues. After reading tons and tons of posts I figured out that H1B and preliminary surgery is a good idea. I want to ask you, people who got interviews for prelim for cat, for which visa you will be applying J1 or H1B? And how hard is to get H1B surgical prelim spot? I don't ask about H1B cat because if I get J1 cat spot I will not be worrying about this, 8 years J1 is enough to go trough residency + fellowship and then waive J1 in rural area. I am speaking about H1B for prelim also because my personal situation will let me to transfer h1b to green card in 2 years after getting H1B. So what you have done so far, j1, h1b? And overall what is the priority of H1B for surgery prelim, considering the fact that we can waive J1 after board exam and get green card anyway in 2-3 years in rural area. Any specific priorities of H1B for prelim surgery?
Can we match at bigger program on H1B and then transfer to community program also in prelim on H1B and hope to get cat there? Any priorities of H1B over J1 when the time of transfer to categorical appears? Can't concentrate on studying while thinking about this issues.
Almost every surgery program will sponsor the J1 because it is way less expensive and less paperwork involved. As I can recall, large programs only sponsor the J1 visa. The IMG friendly programs (ex. Maimonides medical center) are those that seem to want to sponsor the H1B but I have seen very few who do sponsor it even if you have passed the step 3.
I am sorry to hear that ... Have you applied broadly? And I guess you have been looking for only cats? ... Instead of you I'd applied to minimum 30-50 prelims at strong programs with a history of prelim placing
I did. I applied all over the place. I knew I wouldn't get into a cat position since my CK score was low of 214. I'm disappointed at one of the programs which I applied to that interviewed me but ended up having TWO vacant spots in SOAP. Basically means they called me, I flew out there, interviewed me, but didn't even bother to rank me. I'm trying to SOAP into any of the programs which are currently vacant. Lets see what happens. I haven't received any calls yet.
Thank you for your reply, I got confirmation about the slim chances of H1B on prelim from a program director on this forum, he is internal medicine PD, but I am sure he/she has evidence based information. I see that things doesn't go well for people this year, even about prelim ... I thought that getting into prelim will be no deal, but people fail to match prelim , prelim that seems dead end anyway. Things went crazy ...
Yes matching into a preliminary 1 year surgery position is hard and like you stated a dead end at most community programs. The malignant ones use it as cheap labor. University programs on the other hand which are way harder to get in will help you with placement into categorical at their institution or at another program. No University program wants to get rid of a good intern or mess up his future career unlike lots of malignant img programs do.
how this season went for you?
After reading a tons of posts, and speaking to people I figured out that if an applicant has a green card, best shoot I think will be a prelim at a community hospital. But if a person needs visa, I think the best way will be prelim a big institution. Maybe I am wrong but it seems that community hospitals prefer applicants with green cards, and big institutions for example cleveland doesn't care about it. Just check cleveland current residents, less than a half is img. I have 3 friends that matched in community programs in the last 6 - 8 years and all of them have green cards. I hope I will also have a green. Seems that it's an answer today, but, but every year +-50 non-us img's match into cat (according to eras 50 persons match, we can't know they may be reaplicants from the last year, or researchers for 1-2 years, but that's not a point, the point is that even with this emigration politics it seems that people will continue to match cat after many struggles like prelim,research e.t.c. But if you posses green card, boyyyyy ... doors seems to be open to community programs after a 1 year of lovely prelim )) My match is in 2 + years, but I worried so much about this subject, soo much that seems that I overvoried and now I am calm, reality is that doors are closed, it's not 2000's years, but lucky and at the same time Smart people will open this doors somehow, but anyway without luck smartness and scores will now carry you anywhere nowadays. Let's hope that we are lucky
Hi I don't want to brag about matching here as many did not. I was in this position last year and it is heartbreaking. I matched preliminary at Michigan State University as partially matched applicants or couples match can call NRMP and they will disclose the location. I agree having a green card is a big bonus since some residency programs do not even sponsor visas. I am canadian and need a J1 visa myself and it is harder to match than my american colleagues from my medical school who almost all matched.
I checked and only 50 programs out of +- 250 doesn't offer J1. 200 programs do. I thought that being a canadian is a privilege ... Good luck!
I think one more bonus of green card is that after unsuccessful prelim pgy1, you can aply for pgy1 one more time without a fear of problem with J1, as long as I know, it's hard to get second prelim pgy1 on J1 because you repeat you years, maybe I am wrong. Seems that you have more tries with green card.
congrats surgeonpgy-0. i'm glad you matched. i'm sure you'll crush it wherever you go.